First it was Katy for grocery ghettofication.... (Houston, Sugar Land: real estate, crime)

[jd433]

What you are witnessing is a Demographic shift. It is happening all over america. In the Houston area a lot of neighborhoods go through cycles. One demographic seems to follow the newer construction and moves further out. The older neighborhoods left behind often go through a demographic shift.

While the new development brings in new retail and grocers some of the upscale businesses in the older areas pack up and leave in order to follow the new growth. the voids are often filled with places like Fiesta Mart. taqueria arandas. Pollo places, Tatoo parlors, 24hr video stores, Liqour stores, Check cashing places, GAME ROOMS, 3.99 hair cut places, Washaterias, Carnecerias etc.

If you want to see good examples of this go look at the 1960/Champions area, Mission Bend/Towne West, Alief amd the list goes on.

[CindyDavis]

Originally Posted by glorplaxy

I hope this is a joke because it sounds like the mark of your typical ignorant bigot on this forum.

I shop at three Fiestas rather regularly (the one on 14th, the one on N. Shepherd, and the one on Airline) and have never been accosted by anyone for any reason which is a HUGE improvement to me over the people trying to sell all sorts of crap outside of the Signature Kroger on 11th. Certainly there are no day-laborers or anything in the parking lots.

No one has ever tried to shove any type of culture down my throat at Fiesta. No one has ever bothered me there at all, and although I am Hispanic, the Mexican community here assumes I am white because of my appearance. No one tries to speak Spanish to me unless it is a worker whose assistance I need and they don't have a great command of English yet.

The produce is sometimes half the cost of what it would be at Kroger or Randall's and there is such a wide variety of it...especially compared to the neighborhood HEB...and it's all coming from the same places. The food they serve inside is cheap, fresh, and delicious (barbacoa, pupusas, chiles rellenos...and they have daily specials with REAL food on a sizable plate lunch for only about $4) and their international selection is quite impressive for your average neighborhood grocery store, including Latin American stuff of all varieties, African, Middle Eastern, and Indian.

I think that only a complete idiot would say that Fiesta attracts "undesirables". Seriously...what the hell? They build these things after research and studies that tell them that a location would be good for the demographic of the area. Sugarland makes tons of sense because it is about the only suburb that isn't chock-full of sheltered, ignorant dumbasses and is actually diverse.

Why not just make your case, leave out the inflammatory language, and eliminate the insults aimed toward the rest of the city? You sound as if you're describing yourself in your closing sentence.

[Truth713]

Is this a joke ???

[txdemo]

Originally Posted by glorplaxy

I hope this is a joke because it sounds like the mark of your typical ignorant bigot on this forum.

I shop at three Fiestas rather regularly (the one on 14th, the one on N. Shepherd, and the one on Airline) and have never been accosted by anyone for any reason which is a HUGE improvement to me over the people trying to sell all sorts of crap outside of the Signature Kroger on 11th. Certainly there are no day-laborers or anything in the parking lots.

No one has ever tried to shove any type of culture down my throat at Fiesta. No one has ever bothered me there at all, and although I am Hispanic, the Mexican community here assumes I am white because of my appearance. No one tries to speak Spanish to me unless it is a worker whose assistance I need and they don't have a great command of English yet.

The produce is sometimes half the cost of what it would be at Kroger or Randall's and there is such a wide variety of it...especially compared to the neighborhood HEB...and it's all coming from the same places. The food they serve inside is cheap, fresh, and delicious (barbacoa, pupusas, chiles rellenos...and they have daily specials with REAL food on a sizable plate lunch for only about $4) and their international selection is quite impressive for your average neighborhood grocery store, including Latin American stuff of all varieties, African, Middle Eastern, and Indian.

I think that only a complete idiot would say that Fiesta attracts "undesirables". Seriously...what the hell? They build these things after research and studies that tell them that a location would be good for the demographic of the area. Sugarland makes tons of sense because it is about the only suburb that isn't chock-full of sheltered, ignorant dumbasses and is actually diverse.

Thanks Glorplaxy. I think some of these folks need to leave the echo chamber and get some air.

[Truth713]

Originally Posted by CindyDavis

Why not just make your case, leave out the inflammatory language, and eliminate the insults aimed toward the rest of the city? You sound as if you're describing yourself in your closing sentence.

I would take your post serious but you did not level the same charges at the OP.. So you basic under cut your own stance.

[JLB001]

I work not to far from that Fiesta...never have a problem in that parking lot with anyone coming up to me trying to sell me roofing much less anything else.

Freedom of choice....no one says your racist aZZ has to shop there.

[HouTXmetro]

If you think it's ghetto, nobody is forcing you to shop there.

[Dopo]

Originally Posted by crbcrbrgv

And forget about Texans moving to Sugar Land. All Dynamo, all the time.

Nice,
as if people can't be both Texans and Dynamo fans

Here's two of the last three tweets from the Houston Texans

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2. Mar 3 Houston Texans ‏@HoustonTexans
   May that be the 1st of many this year! RT @HoustonDynamo: There's the final whistle and the Dynamo have taken the season opener 2-0!
   
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3. Mar 3 Houston Texans ‏@HoustonTexans
   Best of luck to @HoustonDynamo in their 2013 opener vs DC United, which is currently underway at BBVA Compass Stadium in Houston
   
   

[deckhanddavy]

Originally Posted by jd433

What you are witnessing is a Demographic shift. It is happening all over america. In the Houston area a lot of neighborhoods go through cycles. One demographic seems to follow the newer construction and moves further out. The older neighborhoods left behind often go through a demographic shift.

While the new development brings in new retail and grocers some of the upscale businesses in the older areas pack up and leave in order to follow the new growth. the voids are often filled with places like Fiesta Mart. taqueria arandas. Pollo places, Tatoo parlors, 24hr video stores, Liqour stores, Check cashing places, GAME ROOMS, 3.99 hair cut places, Washaterias, Carnecerias etc.

If you want to see good examples of this go look at the 1960/Champions area, Mission Bend/Towne West, Alief amd the list goes on.

This is typical of urban sprawl and won't go away until the entire architecture of this design is completely replaced. It will always be this way, unfortunately.

Also, this thread is a tasteless joke to stir up more pointless BS.

[gsmj]

Originally Posted by crbcrbrgv

Gone will be the days when you could shop without having some guy named Paco trying to shove this culture down your throat.

10 years in Houston and I've yet to meet anyone named Paco - and I shop at Fiesta when convenient. What am I doing wrong?