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Just some pages from the booklet When Ulster Sailed West. Logan was from Ulster and thought bringing folk from his own country would help but as he said they were more trouble than the Indians
Do you think there is more Americans of Scotch-Irish descent or Irish descent ?
Maybe this website has more information in that regard, probably.
Scotch-Irish are not my words and there are those who may or may not take offense to the usage, after all...as we all know, Scotch is a whiskey, and yet it seems the terminology is something that was/is used only in America, apparently.
The Scotch-Irish - The Melting Pot: The ethnic group that blended
It has already been observed that no other immigrants were so patriotically unanimous in support of the American cause as the Scotch-Irish. One group of patriotic settlers in Mecklenburg County, North Carolina, drew up a set of resolutions on May 20, 1775, declaring the people of that county free and independent of the British Crown. This predominantly Scotch-Irish assemblage thus anticipated by more than a year the Declaration of Independence. The Revolutionary War might not have been won without Scotch-Irish fighting men.
Maybe this website has more information in that regard, probably.
Scotch-Irish are not my words and there are those who may or may not take offense to the usage, after all...as we all know, Scotch is a whiskey, and yet it seems the terminology is something that was/is used only in America, apparently.
The Scotch-Irish - The Melting Pot: The ethnic group that blended
It has already been observed that no other immigrants were so patriotically unanimous in support of the American cause as the Scotch-Irish. One group of patriotic settlers in Mecklenburg County, North Carolina, drew up a set of resolutions on May 20, 1775, declaring the people of that county free and independent of the British Crown. This predominantly Scotch-Irish assemblage thus anticipated by more than a year the Declaration of Independence. The Revolutionary War might not have been won without Scotch-Irish fighting men.
Thanks for the link. They were the second European/White group in colonial area so I find it hard to believe that only 4 million Americans are of Scotch-Irish ancestry. I mean along with the English they are the backbone of the White Southerner. I think between 25-30 million must have at least a Scotch-Irish ancestor. Also African Americans usually have a minimum of European ancestry and most of the time is English/Scotch-Irish.
Maybe this website has more information in that regard, probably.
Scotch-Irish are not my words and there are those who may or may not take offense to the usage, after all...as we all know, Scotch is a whiskey, and yet it seems the terminology is something that was/is used only in America, apparently.
I just cringe whenever I hear someone say Scotch - Irish. SCOTCH is whiskey. They should say Scottish. I don't know why Americans haven't figured this out.
I just cringe whenever I hear someone say Scotch - Irish. SCOTCH is whiskey. They should say Scottish. I don't know why Americans haven't figured this out.
Habit? Pure ignorance? I certainly do not know and could not say.
Thanks for the link. They were the second European/White group in colonial area so I find it hard to believe that only 4 million Americans are of Scotch-Irish ancestry. I mean along with the English they are the backbone of the White Southerner. I think between 25-30 million must have at least a Scotch-Irish ancestor. Also African Americans usually have a minimum of European ancestry and most of the time is English/Scotch-Irish.
I believe it is because they were proud to claim themselves as American and after some time their original ancestries/ethnicities/nationalities fell by the wayside as they forged new identities in this land of the free and home of the brave.
My parents on both sides were from the south and they and "theirs" have always referred to themselves as American. Truly, I don't think my parents knew (or cared) what their original countries/nations were.
Do you think there is more Americans of Scotch-Irish descent or Irish descent ?
It’s hard to say. I believe a lot of people who put American as their ethnicity on the census are probably derived from scots-Irish ancestry in the southern United States. Just my speculation. So I believe that they are severely being undercounted. Also when some say they are Irish in the south, especially if the are Protestant (mostly Presbyterian) they are actually probably derived from the scots-Irish immigrant wave.
I just cringe whenever I hear someone say Scotch - Irish. SCOTCH is whiskey. They should say Scottish. I don't know why Americans haven't figured this out.
I saw the term Scots-Irish sometimes, maybe it's more appropriate. I wouldn't necessarily called them Scottish because they were also some from northern England who moved to Northern Ireland, then America and they were considered as Scotch-Irish. They stayed around a century in Ireland before going so they had already a different experience than the Scots from Scotland who migrate directly to America. Even in the first U.S census in 1790, there's a difference between Scottish and Scotch-Irish.
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Originally Posted by ecko_complex24
It’s hard to say. I believe a lot of people who put American as their ethnicity on the census are probably derived from scots-Irish ancestry in the southern United States. Just my speculation. So I believe that they are severely being undercounted. Also when some say they are Irish in the south, especially if the are Protestant (mostly Presbyterian) they are actually probably derived from the scots-Irish immigrant wave.
Indeed, I remember reading the 1990 U.S census and Irish was the largest ancestry in Arkansas and Oklahoma. I'm sure most of them are actually Scotch-Irish because most Irish didn't immigrate in the south and the percentage of Catholics isn't high enough in those states.
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