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Old 12-13-2011, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Venice Italy
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in my experience l consider the b. 98 f 9x21 the best option to the personal urban defence, coz in case of criminal event you will not use more then 4 or 5 bullets.

Anyway-- if your local law permit it, l mean to own a fire gun like this one-- you could get the mx4 storm




TypeSubmachine gunPlace of origin ItalyService historyUsed bySee UsersProduction historyManufacturerBerettaSpecificationsWeight2,48 kgLength647 mmBarrel length312 mmCartridge9x19mm ParabellumMuzzle velocity390 m/sEffective range~200 m
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Old 12-14-2011, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Closer than you think !
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I have been able to talk myself out of the cx storm for some time now - but someone has them on gunbroker for $629 New My resolve is dissolving
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Old 12-14-2011, 09:02 PM
 
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You know that it comes chambered for .40S&W?

Of course for the life of me I can't see a reason for mounting an optical sight because I'm not buying the 200 yard effective claim for any submachine/carbine round.
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Old 12-16-2011, 04:29 PM
 
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in my experience l consider the b. 98 f 9x21 the best option to the personal urban defence, coz in case of criminal event you will not use more then 4 or 5 bullets.

Anyway-- if your local law permit it, l mean to own a fire gun like this one-- you could get the mx4 storm




TypeSubmachine gunPlace of origin ItalyService historyUsed bySee UsersProduction historyManufacturerBerettaSpecificationsWeight2,48 kgLength647 mmBarrel length312 mmCartridge9x19mm ParabellumMuzzle velocity390 m/sEffective range~200 m
When did Italy start allowing CCW and what is the extent of your personal experience upon which to base your claim?
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Old 12-18-2011, 01:03 AM
 
Location: SWUS
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I'm planning on buying a Beretta 92FS fairly soon, I might actually be able to to justify buying one of these sometime.
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Old 12-18-2011, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Venice Italy
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When did Italy start allowing CCW and what is the extent of your personal experience upon which to base your claim?



hi

my experience comes from 1 year in the Ita air force and 25 years working against the urban criminality and it was reffered to the 98 f


the Ita law does not permit to own war weapons but attention you can own it, with the adeguate licence,-- a modified weapon-- just one condition is necessary it must be.. or it's function must be at single action

l mean do not to volley

nowaday beretta is selling the mx4 to the Indian army, l made the proposal if the American law permit to own that kind of gun, cos it would be a very interesting weapon
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Old 12-18-2011, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Venice Italy
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I'm planning on buying a Beretta 92FS fairly soon, I might actually be able to to justify buying one of these sometime.




the best choise
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Old 12-20-2011, 12:49 AM
 
Location: SE Florida
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I'm planning on buying a Beretta 92FS fairly soon, I might actually be able to to justify buying one of these sometime.
Great weapon and you may be amazed at the ease of cleaning. There are 6 of us in SE Florida all Vietnam Vets who have a 92fs and we love the weapon....

The 9mm is also my favorite type of shell. I do have 5 handguns that use 9mm....Good luck with it and enjoy it at the range.
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