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Old 07-08-2012, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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Really? Monsanto knew for a fact ahead of time that it was carcinogenic and would leave them open to lawsuits down the road and did it anyway? Sounds like really bad business to me. Where did you get this fact? Can you post a cite to it?

 
Old 07-08-2012, 06:35 PM
 
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Really? Monsanto knew for a fact ahead of time that it was carcinogenic and would leave them open to lawsuits down the road and did it anyway? Sounds like really bad business to me. Where did you get this fact? Can you post a cite to it?
I read this years ago. They'd tested it before marketing it and saw that it was carcinogenic. I'll see if I can find something on this, or you can try Googling it. You know how after years, the teflon coating on pots and pans tends to wear thin? On cheaper ware it can go completely through to the metal. It means little by little over time, you're eating that coating. It gets released into the food you cook in it, too.

Here's something about DuPont getting sued for marketing Teflon:
www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=12885 I can't tell offhand if DuPont and Monsanto are related, or if they're rival companies. They're both embroiled in controversies regarding GMO seeds and related products, RoundUp Ready crops, etc.

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Old 07-08-2012, 06:55 PM
 
Location: In the Pearl of the Purchase, Ky
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Sounds like it was in something like the National Enquirer. You KNOW if it's in there it HAS to be true! lol
 
Old 07-08-2012, 10:17 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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I read this years ago. They'd tested it before marketing it and saw that it was carcinogenic. I'll see if I can find something on this, or you can try Googling it. You know how after years, the teflon coating on pots and pans tends to wear thin? On cheaper ware it can go completely through to the metal. It means little by little over time, you're eating that coating. It gets released into the food you cook in it, too.

Here's something about DuPont getting sued for marketing Teflon:
www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=12885 I can't tell offhand if DuPont and Monsanto are related, or if they're rival companies. They're both embroiled in controversies regarding GMO seeds and related products, RoundUp Ready crops, etc.
From the site you linked to:

The EPA is continuing its risk assessment process for PFOA. In a draft report released in June, the majority of members on a scientific advisory board that reviewed the EPA's draft risk assessment concluded that the chemical is "likely" to be carcinogenic to humans. That finding went beyond the EPA's own determination that there was only "suggestive evidence" from animal studies that perfluorooctanoic acid and its salts are potential human carcinogens.

Which is to say that even the EPA, that fined them, doesn't know for sure yet if there's a real risk.
 
Old 07-09-2012, 10:48 AM
 
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I'm trying to think of a new and more apt name for Monsanto. How about one of these:

Carcinanto?

Montumor?

Malignanto?
 
Old 07-09-2012, 10:59 AM
 
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I just figured out what's going on on these Monsanto threads, gang. There are paid shills for Monsanto on these threads. Best to put them on "ignore" so we can have a normal conversation. It looks like everyone's pretty much fled the combat zone, though.
 
Old 07-09-2012, 11:25 AM
 
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I will say this, when I think of Monsanto, I think toxins.

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I just figured out what's going on on these Monsanto threads, gang. There are paid shills for Monsanto on these threads. Best to put them on "ignore" so we can have a normal conversation. It looks like everyone's pretty much fled the combat zone, though.
 
Old 07-09-2012, 12:03 PM
 
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Monsanto appears to operate by strategically placing their people and people favorable to them in highly influential positions. As the OP states, they've put Michael Taylor in the FDA. They also have Jeffrey Sachs, an internationally known economist and one who claims to be environmentally-oriented, heading up a food project at the UN. They'd hoped he'd get appointed to head up the World Bank, but fortunately, things didn't work out as they and Sachs had hoped. Their m.o. is insidious.
 
Old 07-09-2012, 01:04 PM
 
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Monsanto, like all other giant corporations, has only one thing in mind: making more and more profits at any cost. If they have to poison entire countries to get there, then so be it!

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Monsanto appears to operate by strategically placing their people and people favorable to them in highly influential positions. As the OP states, they've put Michael Taylor in the FDA. They also have Jeffrey Sachs, an internationally known economist and one who claims to be environmentally-oriented, heading up a food project at the UN. They'd hoped he'd get appointed to head up the World Bank, but fortunately, things didn't work out as they and Sachs had hoped. Their m.o. is insidious.
 
Old 07-09-2012, 08:35 PM
 
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I just figured out what's going on on these Monsanto threads, gang. There are paid shills for Monsanto on these threads. Best to put them on "ignore" so we can have a normal conversation. It looks like everyone's pretty much fled the combat zone, though.
Bull$hit.

What you have here is 2 or 3 people who actually know a thing or two about agriculture, and we get really sick of all this ignorant blathering about Monsanto/Satan.

It's stupid, really. But have at it. No amount of truth is going to change your minds anyway.
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