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Old 04-07-2010, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Homeless
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Yes, it can be demonstrated effectively, but it seldom is, especially if what you see looking out your window conflicts with all the rest of the world.

You are possibly the most subjectively thinking person on this entire forum, as you have proved by selectively choosing what to believe and what not to believe, regardless of the authenticy of the source.

There is a process called "scientific method" which is why you are using a computer right now, and not a stone axe. Scientific method is a reliable data and fact gathering mechanism, which is not perfect, but it works damned well compared to your way of just believing what you want to believe.

A computer is a readily demonstrable instrument of the scientific method.
Quite a few people have them and they obviously work.

How are inventions of convenience which are available to all, and proven to work, in any way related to crime statistics?

BTW I am sure your precious little statistics show you that certain areas have more crime than others, right?
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Old 04-07-2010, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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BTW I am sure your precious little statistics show you that certain areas have more crime than others, right?
Yes, which proves to you that certain areas do NOT have more crime than others, because my precious little statistics are lies, fabricated to leave the false impression that some areas have more crime than others.
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Old 04-07-2010, 09:27 AM
 
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Can you tell me why you think that should be important to me or an efficient asset in improving my life and the lives of those I care about?

If you can do so then I can answer your query.
It should be important to you because it might, or rather should change the way you think about a few things.

I've gotten a reality check myself a number of times, and accepting what the reality actually is instead of what you think it might be can often help you lead a better life, not burdened with fear, anger or mistrust of your fellow man.

Now considering the tone of voice in this thread, I'm sure that sounds like some hippie bull, but it's not, it's about figuring out what whould be the priority, and what shouldn't.
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Old 04-07-2010, 09:30 AM
 
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Yes, which proves to you that certain areas do NOT have more crime than others, because my precious little statistics are lies, fabricated to leave the false impression that some areas have more crime than others.
That is an actual possibility.
If the people doing the analysis would allow me to witness every stage of it, then I could actually have a bit more of a trust in them.

In one of my side businesses, there are quite a few scientists that have multiple studies against certain natural compounds working for the benefit of certain biological functions..
Yet in controlled experimentation these compounds in fact did work for the sample group over a long period of time when all else was eliminated except the compound and normal diet patterns. With no side effects whatsoever.

Does this prove that the compounds work all the time.
No it does not. But it does prove they work enough to be considered as possible replacements for pharmaceutical products that have similar functions but a slew of side effects.

I've nothing against the scientific method.
But certain statistics are pretty much a way to bias the opinions of people to fit into a certain thinking process.
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Old 04-07-2010, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Homeless
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It should be important to you because it might, or rather should change the way you think about a few things.

I've gotten a reality check myself a number of times, and accepting what the reality actually is instead of what you think it might be can often help you lead a better life, not burdened with fear, anger or mistrust of your fellow man.

Now considering the tone of voice in this thread, I'm sure that sounds like some hippie bull, but it's not, it's about figuring out what whould be the priority, and what shouldn't.

It was my following of statistics that led to my being skeptical about them unless backed by readily provable or at least semi solid evidence.

I see your view as simply a result of your life experience and your interpretation of the information you receive.

As far as my perspective on my fellow man, it is a matter of possibility.
At any moment any human can choose to do something harmful or helpful.
And certain indicators may influence that, but at the end one never knows what another is going to do.

I would rather err on the side of caution than err on the side of trust.
Because the majority of people I have observed who erred on the side of trust got used or abused.
Vigilance and prevention seem more efficient to me than recovering from damage.

But as I learned from my jujitsu and aikido sensei, the best way to avoid being attacked is to make your defense as impenetrable as possible and to show no opening or fear.
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Old 04-09-2010, 01:18 PM
 
Location: New Kensington (Parnassus) ,Pa
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I have no sympathy for you.
Brilliant response!
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Old 04-09-2010, 01:20 PM
 
Location: New Kensington (Parnassus) ,Pa
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The guys a coward. The suspect should file a civil suit. Take his frigging house.
Typical bleeding heart response. The guy was a criminal and broke into his house with his kids at home and you want to blame the victim.
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