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You mean I should have said: Southern plantation owners did not find the mental task of administering their estates to be as exhausting as did the slaves they owned for doing all the physical labor of maintaining the plantation and generating the profits through their forced effort. Nor, historically, are there significant other examples of wealthy land-owners and/or slave holders who appear to have worked themselves to death by merely hiring middle-management people to oversee their fortunes and empires. In general,extreme wealth and power, in most cases, appears to have a certain leisurely pace to it that was not particularly threatening to the well-being of the person who had to "think" about the estate, aside from the mental anguish that was associated with his unbridled greed for even finer horses and more lavish table settings.
Why am I wasting my time writing one non-sequitur after another, when the only thing that is not a non sequitur would be "Oh, yes, Master, you are always correct".
Why do "great debates" always have to be cluttered by people who throw out perky one-lines, and then use a two-word Latin phrase to dismiss every response, merely trying to show off that they know a Latin phrase, which in fact they not know the meaning of at all.
non se⋅qui⋅tur
–noun
1. Logic. an inference or a conclusion that does not follow from the premises.
You mean I should have said: Southern plantation owners did not find the mental task of administering their estates to be as exhausting as did the slaves they owned for doing all the physical labor of maintaining the plantation and generating the profits through their forced effort. .
No - you should not have written anything about Butler - as it is not applicable to todays world.
Got it now.
And mental work can be as exhausting as physical work - and that is an indisputable FACT.
No - you should not have written anything about Butler - as it is not applicable to todays world.
Got it now.
And mental work can be as exhausting as physical work - and that is an indisputable FACT.
So, since my later response was not about Butler, it was not a non sequitur, and therefore is a valid response to your remark, and I await an intelligent rebuttal.
You failed to point out in your original premise that you were limiting your remarks to "today's world", and therefore, an analysis of "today's world" was the confining framework about the premise, and therefore any historical examples or generalizations about the long development of our culture would be a non sequitur. Sorry I misunderstood your intent.
I should have replied, "but in today's world, there are a lot of bullies in school too" and that would have not been a non sequitur, because it would have remainied within your framework of "today's world". It seems you were not talking about work, or exhaustion, or mental effort, but only about Today's World. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Somehow I got off topic and started thinking about hard work. My apologies.
I believe that you can get physically exhausted from any type of work. mental or physical. But more from actual manual labor. But at the same time there is a mental exhaustion too that some people don't understand if all they have done is the physical labor.
I worked with an engineer that used to work in a factory. He said it was hard work and he was filthy and exhausted at the end of the day. But it was only physical. As an engineer he had a lot of responsibility and was constantly stressed about deadlines, customers, money, designing something that won't get someone injured. All he wanted to do was go home and not think His brain was fried as they say. This can drain you physically as well.
Sure, you can get mentally drained laboring, so is there really much difference between the two?
Our engineers work 7 days a week without overtime. Some places the engineers had to sleep at their desks and be away from home more then two days. Some work 100 hours per week while having to make critical decisions.
Maybe we could define hard work as the actual output. Your actual contribution to the business you work for, society, family, even the world. Every job is different, every requirement measured differently. Otherwise we are reduced to arguing about who worked harder than who. I think that is only feasible if the situations are the same.
And to be honest I don't consider myself a hard worker overall Only when I have to do I "work hard". I refuse to fail my peers and would hate gtting anyone int rouble by not livign up to expectations.
But if we must define hard work then try this: Two workers dig two separate 6 foot deep trenches that are 3 feet wide. One uses a shovel, the other a backhoe. They accomplish the same thing. One would argue that the guy with the shovel worked harder. So we could measure that a hard worker uses more physical energy than someone that accomplishes the same thing, in less time, with no physical exertion.
Now where is the mental exhaustion I spoke of above? It's not the guy in the backhoe, its the guy that designed it, tested it, engineered it. The one that spent countless hours running numbers so that he wouldn't get somebody killed in something he designed.
I would come up with a measurement for mental exhaustion but I am starting to babble to much
Our engineers work 7 days a week without overtime. Some places the engineers had to sleep at their desks and be away from home more then two days. Some work 100 hours per week while having to make critical decisions.
I've done exactly that! You just described one of the projects I worked on 2 months without a single day off, coming to the office at 10-11 leaving at 4-5am when other people wake up, taking a nap under my cube. Surprisingly, I wasn't as unhappy as many would think. I wasn't stressed, it was just mental work, like solving puzzles, which I love to do. I was simply sleep deprived and I ate a lot of food, boy was I hungry ALL THE TIME! Other than that I wasn't unhappy even though I have gotten paid a lot less than I was getting paid later in my career.
I also have worked in the fields for 2 months (commercial fields with the loooong 1 mile 'lanes' I had to tend to bending down every moment picking stuff or pulling weeds). I happened to also work at a factory creating electronic components but this was sitting at a table in a temperature controlled environment, it was monotonous but it was ok, given the fact I could also converse with my fellow workers when bored. When I started my own business it became 'harder', because now I was working in a very politically charged environment that exhausted me completely and made me develop chronic sleep problems I am still dealing with up to these days.
Which work did I hate the most? the field work I hate it so much that I am disgusted with the idea of gardening and I would care less to have a backyard unless I have someone taking care of it on full time basis. I have no desire to work on land ever again. Other things, I think I can deal with.
So, since my later response was not about Butler, it was not a non sequitur, and therefore is a valid response to your remark, and I await an intelligent rebuttal.
You failed to point out in your original premise that you were limiting your remarks to "today's world", and therefore, an analysis of "today's world" was the confining framework about the premise, and therefore any historical examples or generalizations about the long development of our culture would be a non sequitur. Sorry I misunderstood your intent.
I should have replied, "but in today's world, there are a lot of bullies in school too" and that would have not been a non sequitur, because it would have remainied within your framework of "today's world". It seems you were not talking about work, or exhaustion, or mental effort, but only about Today's World. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Somehow I got off topic and started thinking about hard work. My apologies.
You're a riot. I hope you don't drive yourself crazy
Well, I didn't get to the kitchen light fixtures or the shower as I had to replace the brake master cylinder on my Accord.
I recently bought this old west Texas farm house as a retirement "refuge" but I may have let my heart overload my brain as I may now have taken on more work than I have time left on Earth. However, the golden eagle sitting on the fence post behind the house last weekend assured me I probably made the right decision. And yesterday I was startled by a large mule deer as she ran startled from the bar ditch of the dirt road I had decided to take back to the house. Luckily I wasn't in the Accord or we both would have looked like a doe in a headlight beam!
Hey - giving yourself all these things to do means you'll be around a long time in order to complete them. Just minimize road encounters with Mule Deer'
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His brain was fried as they say. This can drain you physically as well.
I hate it so much that I am disgusted with the idea of gardening and I would care less to have a backyard unless I have someone taking care of it on full time basis. I have no desire to work on land ever again. Other things, I think I can deal with. 
