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So stupid. There are bad cops out there. They are not the majority though, and it not just an issue for people with lots of pigment. You can make being a police officer a minimum wage job if you want, but I rather doubt that's going to improve things. You can look at improving the talent attracted, the training provided and the scope of services provided. People call the police all the time for all sorts of nonsense. If x issue has no home it gets dumped into - the police. Homeless, crazy, drunk, you or something or someone lost, car breakdown, domestic issue, neighbor domestic issue...go diagnose it, fill out paperwork, collect evidence, be the lead communicator, fill out more paperwork....wait did we forget something. Oh yeah....actual crime fighting.
When people start thinking with their heads and putting out reasonable steps to making things better, then I'll know people are actually sick and tired of being sick and tired. Until then, they really don't care. They just want justification to go Lord of the Flies. They don't care about the tens of thousands of innocent people they are going to kill by doing this crap during a pandemic. They don't care about the lengthening of economic misery a renewal will trigger and the the effects it will have. LA just had someone commit suicide. He hung himself and the town went into a frenzy that there's been a lynching. In SoCal?!? It doesn't even make sense.
This "outrage" is being executed in a staged format and then gathering local momentum. The far left has returned to the country and they've brought early Nazi brownshirt tactics with them on one hand, and are scanning social media on the other seeking undesirables. Don't feed this fire. This is not the solution to the problem. Instead, calmly write a letter to your elected officials, perhaps while watching JoJo Rabbit to see how dangerous these circular thought processes can be.
It's know that the USA can't be defeated militarily. Misinformation and outrage are the weaknesses of Democracies. When it's all said and done, we're going to find foreign funding connecting these leftist organizing groups. I have no doubt BLM is a pawn....perhaps not even known to themselves.
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I'm only curious about one thing.
They are not trained to shoot legs? Buttocks? Let me put it this way - non lethal body areas? Or, there is some legal caveat to doing that?
If you fire a gun there is a rule that you must always be aware of where it will go. If you miss the bullet doesn't stop, it keeps going. Maybe in the ground, a wall, a tree, or innocent bystander.
I'm assuming you've never shot a handgun before. Taking your time, breathing, concentrating, it's not too hard to hit a torso sized target at say 15 to 20 feet. Make the target smaller like the body parts you mention and your accuracy will go down. Now do it in low light. Now do it while the target is moving. Now do it while you are moving.
Add those up and you will see it's extremely hard to hit those small targets. Add that if you just wound they may still be able to harm you or someone nearby. Get shot in the leg and you still can probably shoot a gun back at the cop. Get an untrained civilian who doesn't care where the missed shots go and bad things can happen.
You see it all the time on drive by shootings where the intended target is missed but a bystander gets shot and killed, often kids.
I watched the full video. All the suspect had to do is get cuffed and spend the night in jail until he wast drunk anymore. Then if no warrants he would be out. But instead he flipped out and wrestled 2 cops, took a tazer and also tried to grab their gun.
The video was stopped when the shooting actually happened. But it also looks like the 2 cops were spread out and the suspect was facing one cop and his back/side was facing the other cop.
If you fire a gun there is a rule that you must always be aware of where it will go. If you miss the bullet doesn't stop, it keeps going. Maybe in the ground, a wall, a tree, or innocent bystander.
I'm assuming you've never shot a handgun before. Taking your time, breathing, concentrating, it's not too hard to hit a torso sized target at say 15 to 20 feet. Make the target smaller like the body parts you mention and your accuracy will go down. Now do it in low light. Now do it while the target is moving. Now do it while you are moving.
Add those up and you will see it's extremely hard to hit those small targets. Add that if you just wound they may still be able to harm you or someone nearby. Get shot in the leg and you still can probably shoot a gun back at the cop. Get an untrained civilian who doesn't care where the missed shots go and bad things can happen.
You see it all the time on drive by shootings where the intended target is missed but a bystander gets shot and killed, often kids.
In addition to the above, there is no guarantee a bullet to a leg will not kill a person. The (femoral?) artery runs down the inside of both legs, and you will bleed out pretty quickly from being shot in it, I believe there was a guy walking through a National Park a few years ago that was gored by an onery mountain goat, and he bled out and died fairly quickly. Cops are trained to shoot "center mass" because it not only minimizes their chance of missing (as stated above), it is also shown to have the best chance of "stopping the threat". I'm sure if they shoot for a leg, it could be shown in court that the threat was not sufficient to shoot at all, which was not the case with Atlanta Wendy's guy. Yes, cops do make mistakes, but it is a highly stressful job with life-and-death decisions having to be made in seconds. Yet the public armchair-quarterbacks these decisions as if it is a video game, that can be replayed over and over until you get the outcome you want.
The first problem is that the narrative being repeated by BLM and others, is that there is a "genocide" going on with police killing unarmed black men - but that is FALSE, it is a LIE. In 2019, there was something like nine unarmed black males and eighteen unarmed white males that were killed by the police (in a country of what, 330 million?), feel free to look it up. Of these nine, I wish I knew the circumstances (how many were inebriated, how many were fighting with the police at the time, how many had heart attacks while fighting with the police, etc.), it's definitely something to research - a link would be appreciated if someone has one. It would be nice if NO ONE died (or were otherwise victimized) while interacting with police, and that should be our goal. Which brings us to the second problem going on in the U.S.: QUIT FIGHTING WITH THE POLICE. Maybe it's too much of a reach to expect people to start obeying the law, but it doesn't seem to be that much to ask that people, after being caught farking up, to submit to the arresting officers, and then have their case heard in court, often with a public-paid defender. WHY isn't this being taught in every school, home, church, and football practice?
So you are telling me that if a person kills a loved one of yours and says he/she will be back for the rest of your loved ones, resists arrest, and runs away, that shooting that person is unjustified?
Driving drunk could lead to someone getting killed.
The real question is, why did he resist and run? What else was he going to do or did do?
No, the real question is why he was shot in the back and left on the pavement to bleed out.
Your hypothetical question doesn't matter, the law does.
"Georgia law allows a person to use deadly force 'only if he or she reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent death or great bodily injury to himself or herself or a third person.'
"In addition, the Atlanta Police policy manual, which was most recently updated last week, says that an officer can use deadly force when 'He or she reasonably believes that the suspect possesses a deadly weapon or any object, device, or instrument which, when used offensively against a person, is likely to or actually does result in serious bodily injury and when he or she reasonably believes that the suspect poses an immediate threat of serious bodily injury to the officer or others.'"
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