Is the Electoral College Flawed and if So How do We Change It? (house seat, controversial)
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And the Liberals are complaining about the EC but they weren't complaining in 2008 when Hillary got more votes than Obummer but Obummer won more states. Hypocrites.
Nonsense.
The electoral college has zip, nada, nothing to do with the primaries.
Can we please get off illegal votes and increasing Represenatives and get back to the original topic of the Electoral College and if it needs updating or rempval?
Can we please get off illegal votes and increasing Represenatives and get back to the original topic of the Electoral College and if it needs updating or rempval?
Removing the cap on the number of representatives in the House would update the electoral college. How do you think we determine how many electors come from each state??????
It's a shame you don't know what a microcosm is - or do you actually believe this is the only time an illegal alien has ever voted?
Its a shame you didn't offer an intelligent argument. If you are going to assert that something is a "microcosm" than be prepared to explain why and be prepared to show why a problem is really widespread. I can find one person anywhere that will defy conventional norms and expectations.
You do know don't you that our fearless President has actually asserted that thousands of illegal voters were bused across state lines to cast votes for Hillary Clinton? He did this without any evidence to back him. Its just another tall tale. Yet, his supporters never call him out for such misrepresentations.
Honestly, if you expect to be taken seriously when you make a claim about millions of illegal votes, do more than show us one person who cast illegal votes (and got caught). It really looks pretty dumb.
Last edited by markg91359; 08-10-2017 at 08:52 AM..
Removing the cap on the number of representatives in the House would update the electoral college. How do you think we determine how many electors come from each state??????
It is an off-topic that is related but more government officials isn't exactly a good thing and in fact would make things harder and far more complicated. Rural states with fewer people would in fact lose power and we would see more 1960 and 1976 where the one who won the most states don't win because of state's like Florida, California and New York, even Pennsylvania going the other way. Besides the proportional state electoral vote, no answer helps all and instead hurts a party.
It is an off-topic that is related but more government officials isn't exactly a good thing and in fact would make things harder and far more complicated. Rural states with fewer people would in fact lose power and we would see more 1960 and 1976 where the one who won the most states don't win because of state's like Florida, California and New York, even Pennsylvania going the other way. Besides the proportional state electoral vote, no answer helps all and instead hurts a party.
It is not off-topic. The question was how do we change the flaws in the electoral college. The answer is that the electoral college is flawed because of the cap on the number of representatives in the House, and we change that flaw by removing the cap. IT IS EXACTLY ON TOPIC.
It is an off-topic that is related but more government officials isn't exactly a good thing and in fact would make things harder and far more complicated. Rural states with fewer people would in fact lose power and we would see more 1960 and 1976 where the one who won the most states don't win because of state's like Florida, California and New York, even Pennsylvania going the other way. Besides the proportional state electoral vote, no answer helps all and instead hurts a party.
This can already happen under the current system. The reason that it’s not happening, is that Texas remains for the time being staunchly Republican, and Florida’s rural/small-town population balances its big-city population. With Florida urbanizing and Texas gradually leaning more Democratic, it would not be unreasonable to expect the most-populous 10-12 states to be swept by Democratic candidates in future elections, thus winning the election, even if the other states were to stay staunchly Republican. Thus the irony, that as of the 2016 election, Republicans are defending the electoral college as it stands, while Democrats are decrying it. In the foreseeable future, even if Republicans can score overwhelming majorities in states like Nebraska or Arkansas, if they narrowly lose the big states, they’ll lose the electoral college.
Last edited by ohio_peasant; 08-10-2017 at 09:17 AM..
This can already happen under the current system. The reason that it’s not happening, is that Texas remains for the time being staunchly Republican, and Florida’s rural/small-town population balances its big-city population. With Florida urbanizing and Texas gradually leaning more Democratic, it would not be unreasonable to expect the most-populous 10-12 states to be swept by Democratic candidates in future elections, thus winning the election, even if the other states were to stay staunchly Republican. Thus the irony, that as of the 2016 election, Republicans are defending the electoral college as it stands, while Democrats are decrying it. In the foreseeable future, even if Republicans can score overwhelming majorities in states like Nebraska or Arkansas, if they narrowly lose the big states, they’ll lose the electoral college.
The loser always complain, that will remain unless it is a landslide. McCain and to an extent Romney were landslides though not near Bush -Kerry, Clinton-Dole, Bush-Dukakis, Reagan-Mondall, etc. Closer elections see scrutiny. Larger ones typically do not besides the usual suspects.
Removing the cap on the number of representatives in the House would update the electoral college. How do you think we determine how many electors come from each state??????
By removing the cap on representatives we would have a House that never gets anything done. We currently have 435 members of the voting House and they can't seem to get together to pass anything of benefit to the people, now imagine that House consisting of 1500 representatives.
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