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Old 07-14-2021, 07:49 PM
 
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Any talk about temperature is useless unless heat index is taken into account.
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Old 07-14-2021, 07:59 PM
 
Location: USA
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Any talk about temperature is useless unless heat index is taken into account.
It was in the entire post.
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Old 07-14-2021, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Having lived in both Phoenix and San Antonio I can assure that the East Valley is way hotter than San Antonio/Austin. Anytime we get over 100 down here the dew point it almost always at or below that magic 60 degrees.

Hottest average temp by climate site (this takes into account an entire day)

Austin 86.5
Phoenix 94.8
San Antonio 85.5


Also no, lows in San Antonio are never in the 80s. Even in our most humid days it might "feel" like 80 with the humidity but a low of over 90 in Phoenix feels like 90 as the overnight is most humid part of the day and you only loose 1 or maybe 2 degrees on a very dry night.

Now Phoenix shines is the winter for people who do not like the cold. Texas is colder in every part of the state except the Rio Grande Valley, but their weather is awful down there in the summer.

The two states are just not very similar at all. Texas is more dynamic having more large population centers, but I can see why people would like Phoenix and other parts of the state. Flagstaff is stagnate, but the Prescott Velley is taking off and Tucson is slowly humming along.
You shouldn't state this when it can be looked up. San Antonio just in the 1991-2020 period has had 46 nights with low temps 80°F or higher. In 2010, they had 7 lows 80°F+ and they had 6 lows 80°F+ in 2020. The average is 1 low in the 80's in July and 1 low in the 80's in August.

All that is courtesy of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration/National Weather Service
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Old 07-15-2021, 04:25 PM
 
Location: USA
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You shouldn't state this when it can be looked up. San Antonio just in the 1991-2020 period has had 46 nights with low temps 80°F or higher. In 2010, they had 7 lows 80°F+ and they had 6 lows 80°F+ in 2020. The average is 1 low in the 80's in July and 1 low in the 80's in August.

All that is courtesy of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration/National Weather Service
I guess it slipped my mind since it happens 1.59 times a year.

Last year there were lows of 80 (right at 80 or 81) apparently in July. It was also the second hottest July in almost 135 years of recordkeeping so I would not use that as normal. August was 6th hottest on record and had no 80s which shows you just how rare it is.

You can hate humidity, but Phoenix is hotter than major Texas cities and it is not particularly close.
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Old 07-15-2021, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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I guess it slipped my mind since it happens 1.59 times a year.

Last year there were lows of 80 (right at 80 or 81) apparently in July. It was also the second hottest July in almost 135 years of recordkeeping so I would not use that as normal. August was 6th hottest on record and had no 80s which shows you just how rare it is.

You can hate humidity, but Phoenix is hotter than major Texas cities and it is not particularly close.
It is when you figure in heat index...
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Old 07-15-2021, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Wonderland
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Average lows in the Texas major cities are in the mid to upper 70's in July and August, 80°F+ lows aren't unheard of, and you guys have humidity
You say that like it's a bad thing. We have SOME humidity and being such a large state, it varies a lot throughout the state.

I always laugh when people talk about "how humid it is in Texas." Clearly they've never lived in New Orleans, or Charleston SC! Or any number of other places with much higher humidity levels.

I prefer some humidity. I was just talking with a friend of mine who is from New Mexico. She was talking about going back for her high school reunion (she's 40) and seeing so many people with so many wrinkles. She then said "But you have gorgeous skin." I said "Girl. I'm from New Orleans. I lived in Georgia for ten years. I live in NE Texas. Humidity is my friend."

Every single time I go west, I get nosebleeds and my lips crack and my nails start looking like crap within a few days. Give me some humidity PLEASE!
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Old 07-15-2021, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Wonderland
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You are talking about a state that is nearly 30% reservation land, and has some of the largest percentages of publicly owned land and largest national parks in the country. Personally I’m not a fan of the idea of rich people buying property in Monument Valley or the Grand Canyon to build houses or taking land away from Native Americans.
I'm sorry but most of the state just isn't appealing visually or weather wise to me. But you do you.
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Old 07-15-2021, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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You say that like it's a bad thing. We have SOME humidity and being such a large state, it varies a lot throughout the state.

I always laugh when people talk about "how humid it is in Texas." Clearly they've never lived in New Orleans, or Charleston SC! Or any number of other places with much higher humidity levels.

I prefer some humidity. I was just talking with a friend of mine who is from New Mexico. She was talking about going back for her high school reunion (she's 40) and seeing so many people with so many wrinkles. She then said "But you have gorgeous skin." I said "Girl. I'm from New Orleans. I lived in Georgia for ten years. I live in NE Texas. Humidity is my friend."

Every single time I go west, I get nosebleeds and my lips crack and my nails start looking like crap within a few days. Give me some humidity PLEASE!
It IS a bad thing, and you are sugar coating just how humid the eastern half of Texas is.

Here is a list of Average July dewpoints for the eastern half of Texas:

Sherman 69°F
Texarkana 71°F
Longview 71°F
Dallas 69°F
Wichita Falls 66°F
Abilene 64°F
Stephenville 64°F
Waco 69°F
Austin 70°F
San Antonio 70°F
Palestine 70°F
College Station 71°F
Beaumont 75°F
Houston 74°F
Victoria 74°F
Corpus Christi 74°F
Brownsville 74°F
McAllen 72°F
Laredo 69°F

And I'll remind you that 60°F to 64°F is humid, 65°F to 69°F is muggy, 70°F to 74°F is oppressive, and 75°F+ is miserable

I rest my case...

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Old 07-15-2021, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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It IS a bad thing, and you are sugar coating just how humid the eastern half of Texas is.

Here is a list of Average July dewpoints for the eastern half of Texas:

Sherman 69°F
Texarkana 71°F
Longview 71°F
Dallas 69°F
Wichita Falls 66°F
Abilene 64°F
Stephenville 64°F
Waco 69°F
Austin 70°F
San Antonio 70°F
Palestine 70°F
College Station 71°F
Beaumont 75°F
Houston 74°F
Victoria 74°F
Corpus Christi 74°F
Brownsville 74°F
McAllen 72°F
Laredo 69°F

And I'll remind you that 60°F to 64°F is humid, 65°F to 69°F is muggy, 70°F to 74°F is oppressive, and 75°F+ is miserable

I rest my case...
Still better than desert heat…
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Old 07-15-2021, 09:46 PM
 
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The first time I flew from the Gulf Coast to Arizona I felt like a frog who was dropped in boiling water and jumped out and fell into the fire.

Give me a Gulf Coast summer over an Arizona summer any day.

Just like Kathryn the dry air gives me nose bleeds and make my skin prickly.
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