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Old 06-09-2020, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Miami (prev. NY, Atlanta, SF, OC and San Diego)
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nah...Miami (and Miami Beach) is about as similar to Orlando and Tampa Bay as San Diego is to LA--it isn't....it's not even similar to West Palm Beach or Boca, which are within its MSA.

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Miami feels like a combination of Orlando and Tampa Bay. I don't find it to be all that different.
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Old 06-09-2020, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Miami (prev. NY, Atlanta, SF, OC and San Diego)
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you missed San Diego in the top 25 population.....(+/- 3.2 - 3.3M).

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1. New York-Newark, NY-NJ-CT-PA 23,522,861
2. Los Angeles-Long Beach, CA 18,764,814
3. Chicago-Naperville, IL-IN-WI 9,865,674
4. Washington-Baltimore-Arlington, DC-MD-VA-WV-PA 9,800,391
5. San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA 8,841,475
6. Boston-Worcester-Providence, MA-RI-NH-CT 8,285,407
7. Dallas-Fort Worth, TX-OK 7,994,963
8. Philadelphia-Reading-Camden, PA-NJ-DE-MD 7,204,035
9. Houston-The Woodlands, TX 7,195,656
10. Miami-Fort Lauderdale-Port St. Lucie, FL 6,881,420
11. Atlanta-Athens-Clarke County-Sandy Springs, GA 6,631,604
12. Detroit-Warren-Ann Arbor, MI 5,353,002
13. Seattle-Tacoma, WA 4,853,364
14. Minneapolis-St. Paul, MN-WI 3,977,790
15. Cleveland-Akron-Canton, OH 3,483,297
16. Denver-Aurora, CO 3,572,798
17. Orlando-Deltona-Daytona Beach, FL 3,361,321
18. Portland-Vancouver-Salem, OR-WA 3,239,521
19. St. Louis-St. Charles-Farmington, MO-IL 2,909,036
20. Pittsburgh-New Castle-Weirton, PA-OH-WV 2,615,656
21. Charlotte-Concord, NC-SC 2,728,933
22. Sacramento-Roseville, CA 2,619,754
23. Salt Lake City-Provo-Orem, UT 2,607,366
24. Columbus-Marion-Zanesville, OH 2,509,850
25. Las Vegas-Henderson, NV-AZ 2,486,543

Here's my ranking from most similar to least similar top 10:

1. Salt Lake City
2. Charlotte
3. Pittsburgh
4. Columbus
5. Dallas
6. Atlanta
7. Houston
8. San Jose
9. Cleveland
10.St. Louis
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Old 06-09-2020, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Via what's given Chicago is the definitive answer. But I'm a little surprised not many said Boston.
Boston is the cultural flag bearer for all of New England and honestly..there are cities that are somewhat similar in different ways all over Massachusetts (Lowell, Cambridge, Brockton, Worcester, Brookline)

Boston is in fact very different from most of Suburban Boston for sure but the people in the suburbs and the extremely far-flung suburbs still identify with Boston heavily.
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Old 06-09-2020, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Flawduh
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nah...Miami (and Miami Beach) is about as similar to Orlando and Tampa Bay as San Diego is to LA--it isn't....it's not even similar to West Palm Beach or Boca, which are within its MSA.
Are we talking city proper, or MSA? Because I was going by MSA... Miami/Miami Beach are a very small part of the Miami MSA. If speaking exclusively about the city of Miami and Miami Beach, then I agree with you that it's its own world (although I'd say Key West is a bigger outlier, although not a "large city" by any means.) Honestly, even Tallahassee would be very dissimilar compared to the rest of the state.

But Miami/Miami Beach aside, I don't find the Miami MSA to be much different at all than anything through the I4 corridor.
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Old 06-09-2020, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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Chicago without a doubt. Almost no influence on the rest of the state outside of Chicagoland. Stark contrast on most fronts.
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Old 06-09-2020, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Medfid
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Boston is the cultural flag bearer for all of New England and honestly..there are cities that are somewhat similar in different ways all over Massachusetts (Lowell, Cambridge, Brockton, Worcester, Brookline)

Boston is in fact very different from most of Suburban Boston for sure but the people in the suburbs and the extremely far-flung suburbs still identify with Boston heavily.
Eh. Suburban Boston does still hold Back Bay and Beacon Hill to be the state’s flag bearers. The frozen-in-time-and-wealthy look is a very popular aesthetic for a lot of the state’s nicer towns and cities.

I agree that Boston probably isn’t in the top 25 of the 50 largest cities for being dissimilar to its state.
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Old 06-09-2020, 05:43 PM
 
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Atlanta
Chicago
NYC
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Old 06-09-2020, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Miami (prev. NY, Atlanta, SF, OC and San Diego)
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I think the OP was talking city, in which case Miami/Miami Beach can be like living in a foreign country in many parts.

I agree with you about MSA, outside of Miami/Miami Beach.

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Are we talking city proper, or MSA? Because I was going by MSA... Miami/Miami Beach are a very small part of the Miami MSA. If speaking exclusively about the city of Miami and Miami Beach, then I agree with you that it's its own world (although I'd say Key West is a bigger outlier, although not a "large city" by any means.) Honestly, even Tallahassee would be very dissimilar compared to the rest of the state.

But Miami/Miami Beach aside, I don't find the Miami MSA to be much different at all than anything through the I4 corridor.
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Old 06-09-2020, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Eh. Suburban Boston does still hold Back Bay and Beacon Hill to be the state’s flag bearers. The frozen-in-time-and-wealthy look is a very popular aesthetic for a lot of the state’s nicer towns and cities.

I agree that Boston probably isn’t in the top 25 of the 50 largest cities for being dissimilar to its state.
Pretty much said what I said?

(Nicer) Suburban Boston doesn’t look not look or feel like Beacon Hill or Back Bay but yea culturally/ideologically similar to that teeny tiny portion of Boston.

Boston as a whole has the DNA of a few different towns/regions in MA. The only area that feel very different from the rest of the state are Allston, Chinatown, (Lower) Roxbury and Mattapan (Dorchester feels like Lynn and Brockton combined and put into Boston).
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Old 06-10-2020, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Medfid
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Pretty much said what I said?
Yeah, sorry. I missed “Brookline” in the cities you listed. I guess I wanted to reaffirm that (while they may look different than Beacon Hill, Fenway, and Back Bay) places like Newburyport, Marblehead, Concord, Andover, and Duxbury are pretty culturally and demographically similar to those neighborhoods. Actually there is a strong physical resemblance between Marblehead/Newburyport and Charlestown.

Basically, most towns in MA will resemble Boston in some way. However, they will typically either resemble the wealthier, whiter (with some Asian and Latino) downtown neighborhoods or the working-class, blacker, more diverse, southern neighborhoods. There isn’t much in between.

Alston/Brighton’s demographics are pretty in line with Watertown & Camberville, which follow the downtown model of primarily white, but also sizeable Asian and Latino communities. Malden is a pretty unique one, I guess. It’s like if you took Fields Corner/Savin Hill and made it a separate city.

I guess the really rural towns in the center and west of the state don’t look like Boston, but there aren’t that many of them.

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