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Its fine that you think "upstate" is a different world. But you cannot tell me that new haven has a nyc vibe, or hartford - because they do not. Again, just because wikipedia puts it in nyc metro does not mean its nyc, or "like" nyc. hell, where I grew up on long island feels more like maine than new york. The whole metro region idea is flawed to begin with.
You also cannot tell me there is any discernible difference between syracuse and trenton. I have lived in both and the two are almost identical.
To stick to the op - nyc/jersey is the correct answer. I would exclude conn from this poll as less than a quarter of the state can be associated with ny. central to eastern conn is definately more new england than nyc.
But still, as I said before, all of these areas are just different shades of the same color. I think everyone can agree on that.
Alright now that the KONY-types have been kicked out, I have a question that's actually relevant: Which school is more important to NYC, Syracuse vs. Rutgers?
I know that Cuse calls itself "New York's team," but Rutgers academics and sports have strong links to NYC (the ESB occasionally lights up scarlet for RU, same media market, etc). So which one would you say is more important to NYC?
Alright now that the KONY-types have been kicked out, I have a question that's actually relevant: Which school is more important to NYC, Syracuse vs. Rutgers?
I know that Cuse calls itself "New York's team," but Rutgers academics and sports have strong links to NYC (the ESB occasionally lights up scarlet for RU, same media market, etc). So which one would you say is more important to NYC?
Syracuse....I have never heard anyone question this. Rutgers is most certainly nj's school, but Syracuse U is a "brand" in NYC.
There are many similarities, but I don't know about "associating" with PA. Upstate NY is basically like its own state within a state. I can see the NYC associating with CT and NJ thing due to being a part of the same metro and media market, along with other things.
I agree. Rather than using the term "associate with" I'd use "similar to" and add "closest state (ie. PA, VT, MA, etc.) or, as in the case of Buffalo Metro area...where Canadian coins are accepted, Ontario.
The results of this poll show that combined statistical areas of cities are FAR more important than states in modern America.
I agree with this. This is why I use CSA's even when hillbillies argue against it, it's the most telling measurement for a city's influence and region IMO.
Nj and ct are more associated with nyc as most of the suburbs and workforce of subruban nyc are located there. Upstate new york may be similar to pennslybvania but it more closely related to ohio and nyc in my opnion
Nj and ct are more associated with nyc as most of the suburbs and workforce of subruban nyc are located there. Upstate new york may be similar to pennslybvania but it more closely related to ohio and nyc in my opnion
So youre saying Albany for example is more related to Ohio than NYC? or Ohio and NYC? I dont get it. Youd be saying its not associated with NYC but it is.
If it was a typo and you meant just Ohio, then in what manner?
Im not saying Albany is a mass metropolis like NYC here, but its directly influenced by it and very related to it, as well as New England.
Where people come up with this ****, I dont know. Upstate NY might as well be the Sahara Desert I guess in terms of civilization, even though its 7+ million people, which would still make it about the 13th most populous state out of 50.
I guess since NYC is a prime example of a large cosmopolitan city, they equate Upstate NY to something desolate like Montana or something. Its about as desolate as South Jersey in some parts. They view the dichotomy between NYC and the rest of the state as extremes.
What is funny to me here is that you always hear about Jersey Girls or California Girls, or state pride like Jersey or California, but when it comes to New York, its all strictly city. There is apparently no state pride either. Ill counter any reply about New York being a diverse state with so are NJ and CA.
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