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Old 02-09-2015, 11:42 AM
 
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I didn't know they still allow smoking in bars, that is surprising.

If there is a progressive part of the state, I am having extreme difficulty in finding it and am inclined to agree that it doesn't exist.
Probably not to your definition. Everyone has their own idea of what progressive/liberal/artsy/bohemian means. On the Gulf Coast, St. Pete comes the closest to MY personal idea of that.

You probably just want another state, or perhaps where you already are.
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Old 02-09-2015, 12:33 PM
 
Location: FLORIDA
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i have to be fair, i havent seen all of St Pete.
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Old 02-09-2015, 12:52 PM
 
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LOL, says the guy who pimps St. Pete to everyone like it's a nervous tick.
Apparently so are a lot of other people given the population gains and construction boom in downtown St Pete.
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Old 02-09-2015, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Tampa
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yeah, downtown, aka the one little sliver of the city that isn't a dump.
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Old 02-09-2015, 01:33 PM
 
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yeah, downtown, aka the one little sliver of the city that isn't a dump.
More of that perceived Tampa superiority complex.....oh yay! Old Northeast, Crescent Heights, Snell Isle, Shore Acres, Venetian Isles, Allendale Terrace, Disston Heights, Bahama Shores, Isla Del Sol, Maximo Shores, Placido Bayou and Pinellas Point are among several other areas of St Pete that are far from dumps.
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Old 02-09-2015, 01:37 PM
 
Location: FLORIDA
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sounds like St Pete has a lot of nice areas.
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Old 02-09-2015, 01:50 PM
 
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I find that some people judge a whole city (or state!) based on what they see from the interstate or even one street or neighborhood.
They do.
Its so funny how the historic district in downtown St Augustine is 1 mile away from a legit crap (albeit rapidly gentrifying) area yet because of some quirks of geography and municipal planning, its mostly sight-unseen.

If the Tourist Trolly ran a Linconville loop down Riberia St and back out to King St from Cordova, people would have a WILDLY different impression of St Augustine than they do and it wouldn't be 'quaint'.
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Old 02-09-2015, 02:30 PM
 
Location: FLORIDA
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staugustine, i responded to you in post #29.
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Old 02-09-2015, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Ormond Beach, FL
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NoVA isn't progressive, they're just concerned with whatever's trendy.
NoVA is progressive, Fairfax county is the 800 lb gorilla that is helping paint Virginia blue, no matter how badly down state politicians jerrymander districts.

Florida is in a similar case where the population is more democratic, but republican politicians keep trying to bottle them into as few districts as possible. That way they get slaughtered in democratic districts and barely win everywhere else, but by doing so win more races.
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Old 02-09-2015, 03:07 PM
 
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staugustine, i responded to you in post #29.
Yeah, I saw it but we're not allowed to make fun of other members here, so I just didn't respond to it, since it was the only possible direction that dialog was going to take.
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