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Old 07-10-2018, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Seattle WA, USA
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It's OK Maxim - I think the whole "Ukraine" thing on behalf of Croats has a lot to do with Serbian historic support of Russia.

Now British fans ( out of all people) seem to be happy with their stay in Russia.

This young kid keeps on raving about his whole trip on his channel; he is so enthusiastic lol.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJqYWNj3ol8

These folks seem to be content too ( although I understand only half of what they are saying )


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8ftNnDEOKw

This was a total turnaround comparably to the events of the 2016(?) in Europe.

My guess is that Russian gov. literally sent the message to the "fan clubs" ( in Moscow in particular) - "no more B.S. - you hear me?"
That's my impression.
To be fair that kid is half Russian. His mom is from St. Petersburg and his dad lived there in 90s so his dad speaks Russian.
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Old 07-10-2018, 03:21 PM
 
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To be fair that kid is half Russian. His mom is from St. Petersburg and his dad lived there in 90s so his dad speaks Russian.
So they might actually know what they're talking about?

Refreshing.
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Old 07-10-2018, 03:33 PM
 
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For example. Absolutely useless weapon in real war.
Wrong. The same thing was said about the T-60 light tank. While it did not perform well in open country, the forests and swamp land is where it excelled. Small, maneuverable, light weight and with a powerful 20mm gun it was an asset and used with great success evicting your forefathers from their warm izbas back out into the cold, cold night.

The T-35 was meant as a heavy assault tank but was a failure because it was used incorrectly, supported incorrectly and obsolete almost from the minute it left the assembly line. One of those used and supported correctly would have been a true menace.

Study some tactical armored warfare theory.
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Old 07-10-2018, 05:05 PM
 
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Interesting article
https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/view/a...mic-management
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Old 07-10-2018, 05:16 PM
 
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Americans gave the native lands of Serbs to muslims, and created a "partially recognized state" Kosovo.
And?
That's actually quite an interesting topic right there. Albanians claim that Kosovo was theirs before Serbia took over, while Serbs claim it as their land.

Ichoro is right in saying that the Albanian population increased dramatically post WW2. That was largely due to Tito and his policies.

As far as losing Kosovo?Had Serbia played its cards right that wouldn't have happened. The best thing about NATO intervention was that it finally got Milosevic booted out. It's a shame that it had to happen that way, though. NATO should have punished all involved parties to level out the playing field. That includes Croats and Bosnians as well as the Kosovar.

On the other hand, the US was also the country that helped Serbia secure its independence following WW1. It was one of Wilson's 14 points.
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Old 07-10-2018, 05:20 PM
 
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You missed my and Alec's point then. Russia has a long history of building fake weapons/equipment/machinery to produce an appearance of capabilities that don't exist.
The let him demonstrate that, instead of ranting about something that about every country and industry does.

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For example. Absolutely useless weapon in real war.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Hs35jYLtX8


Yea, a pre-WW2 tank that did not quite work out for various reasons, like the examples below;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tortoi...y_assault_tank
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_...XB-70_Valkyrie

The world is littered with projects that all in all, proved to be outdated or not viable.
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Old 07-10-2018, 05:43 PM
 
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The migration was due to refugees fleeing Albania during a long period of continuous wars involving Albania: Italy-Albania, Italy-Greece, and Greece-Albania.

The Longest Modern War: The Greco-Albanian War 1940-1987 - Beachcombing's Bizarre History Blog
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Old 07-11-2018, 12:11 PM
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Wrong. The same thing was said about the T-60 light tank. While it did not perform well in open country, the forests and swamp land is where it excelled. Small, maneuverable, light weight and with a powerful 20mm gun it was an asset and used with great success evicting your forefathers from their warm izbas back out into the cold, cold night.

The T-35 was meant as a heavy assault tank but was a failure because it was used incorrectly, supported incorrectly and obsolete almost from the minute it left the assembly line. One of those used and supported correctly would have been a true menace.

Study some tactical armored warfare theory.
LOL okay well despite your contradictory statements, I can agree that the T-35 was obsolete the minute it left the assembly line. That's why they never made more than a few dozen, they were garbage cheap knockoffs of 20's British Vickers.

The T-60 was a counterpart to the Panzer 2. Suited for fighting in the mountains and forests against anything but other tanks but neither were a major feature of the eastern front.

If the Soviets used proper tactics maybe Guderian would not have easily destroyed so many Soviet armies (including in your beloved Smolensk)...
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Old 07-11-2018, 02:45 PM
 
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Lmao Eastern Europe just sent UK home. WC without Russia and UK...exactly what the world needs.
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Old 07-11-2018, 04:24 PM
 
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LOL okay well despite your contradictory statements, I can agree that the T-35 was obsolete the minute it left the assembly line. That's why they never made more than a few dozen, they were garbage cheap knockoffs of 20's British Vickers.

The T-60 was a counterpart to the Panzer 2. Suited for fighting in the mountains and forests against anything but other tanks but neither were a major feature of the eastern front.

If the Soviets used proper tactics maybe Guderian would not have easily destroyed so many Soviet armies (including in your beloved Smolensk)...
In its time the T-35 was a viable design, for a very short time. You need to read up on the T-60, being small has advantages and as I said it was real handy when it came to evicting German troops from their holes. They also made great resupply vehicles because of their mobility.

We all know who made the best tank of the war.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dAQ0mGz0B30
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