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Oh, it's always someone else's fault. What if the peasant russkies would start blaming themselves? Russia is so crappy because their people are so crappy. Not because of the Clintons or Reagans or Bushes or anyone.
Don't forget the Jews. It all started with the Jewish-lead Revolution.
You look at Russia with your standards. This is mistake. The political system in Russia is different from the Western model. You think that this is bad, but it is not. Just Russia is different from Western countries. The difference in territory, history, complexity of the national composition, etc.
You can't really say Russia is that or the other because it is so big and different that it is many things at once. Same with the USA. There are many good and bad people in both places, but a big difference is how power is decentralized in the USA versus in Russia. As a result, political power and money are totally interconnected in Russia like a pyramid scheme. The people who benefit from this have a pretty solid system to keep it in place so barring any external shocks or revolutions, it will stay this way and nothing there will change.
You look at Russia with your standards. This is mistake. The political system in Russia is different from the Western model. You think that this is bad, but it is not. Just Russia is different from Western countries. The difference in territory, history, complexity of the national composition, etc.
I'm not buying this, Maksim. This sounds like a great excuse to justify strongmen taking over and throwing democracy out the window. And a good excuse for a large part of the populace to passively shrug, and say, "Oh well."
Why shouldn't Russia have a true democracy? As so many posters here and over the years have reminded everyone, Russia practically invented democracy. And I didn't say "Russia is hopeless". I ASKED if it was. Stating it vs. asking are two very different things. But I guess you answered my question in the affirmative, in your own way.
I would like to believe it's not hopeless. Hope is essential to life.
You can't really say Russia is that or the other because it is so big and different that it is many things at once. Same with the USA. There are many good and bad people in both places, but a big difference is how power is decentralized in the USA versus in Russia. As a result, political power and money are totally interconnected in Russia like a pyramid scheme. The people who benefit from this have a pretty solid system to keep it in place so barring any external shocks or revolutions, it will stay this way and nothing there will change.
The US went through a phase like that, when a few people controlled key resources and services, like the railroads. The government pushed through anti-trust legislation to break it all up. It was able to overcome the vested interests of the time. Now the problem has morphed into a different form, but still--just because some people are benefitting from greed and control of resources doesn't necessarily mean something can't be done about it.
I'm not buying this, Maksim. This sounds like a great excuse to justify strongmen taking over and throwing democracy out the window. And a good excuse for a large part of the populace to passively shrug, and say, "Oh well."
Why shouldn't Russia have a true democracy? As so many posters here and over the years have reminded everyone, Russia practically invented democracy. And I didn't say "Russia is hopeless". I ASKED if it was. Stating it vs. asking are two very different things. But I guess you answered my question in the affirmative, in your own way.
I would like to believe it's not hopeless. Hope is essential to life.
It really should.
Why it can't have a democracy really becomes a question of why exactly different opinions in Russia can't be represented (and protected) on governmental level.
I'm not buying this, Maksim. This sounds like a great excuse to justify strongmen taking over and throwing democracy out the window. And a good excuse for a large part of the populace to passively shrug, and say, "Oh well."
Why shouldn't Russia have a true democracy? As so many posters here and over the years have reminded everyone, Russia practically invented democracy. And I didn't say "Russia is hopeless". I ASKED if it was. Stating it vs. asking are two very different things. But I guess you answered my question in the affirmative, in your own way.
I would like to believe it's not hopeless. Hope is essential to life.
Why shouldn't Russia have a true democracy? They simply aren't ready for it. The people above 40 have no idea how that should really work and would be taken advantage of by others. Have you lived there for any time? No way are they ready for democracy. The attempt in the 90s was classic example of road to hell paved by good intentions. They might have a chance when the Communist educated boomers retire... maybe.
You are welcome Scrat.
(As I've said, once you know who comes whence and why, you start following "trends and patterns")))
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