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Old 09-01-2020, 06:03 PM
 
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Never forget Beslan.
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Old 09-01-2020, 08:55 PM
 
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If you want an actual video of what Kirvoy Rog looks like, you would watch this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LKjoo6FRkg

They are BOTH actual videos of Krivoy Rog DKM, simply person that walks around town in your video doesn't show the parts that are shown in my video.

So it was my message to *Wadym* that he would stop spamming threads, trying to dig up as much dirt on Russia as he can, since he is seething with hatred.

But he needs to look at the mirror first.


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If you go to 3:00 minute you even hear Russian being spoken yet those children aren't being attacked by nazis, go figure. As a rust belt eastern city it isn't as nice as further west in the country but it isn't horrible.
It's a Russian-speaking city ( as all South-Eastern part of Ukraine,) but today is the 1st of September, and these children are not allowed any longer to be taught in their native tongue in schools. It's prohibited from this year on.

So stop sugar-coating it DKM, the Nazis are there all right, as much as you'd like to pretend otherwise.
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Old 09-01-2020, 09:44 PM
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It's a Russian-speaking city ( as all South-Eastern part of Ukraine,) but today is the 1st of September, and these children are not allowed any longer to be taught in their native tongue in schools. It's prohibited from this year on.
This isn't true. It is yet another of a 1,000 of your falsehoods on here.
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Old 09-01-2020, 10:36 PM
 
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This isn't true. It is yet another of a 1,000 of your falsehoods on here.

What exactly "isn't true" here?

That South-Eastern part of Ukraine is Russian-speaking or that they are not allowed any longer to teach their children in Russian in schools?
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Old 09-01-2020, 11:31 PM
 
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KIEV (Reuters) - Ukraine’s neighbors have a right to criticize a new Ukrainian law banning schools from teaching in minority languages beyond primary school level, a leading European rights watchdog said on Friday.

"The commission said a provision in the new law to allow some subjects to be taught in official EU languages, such as Hungarian, Romanian and Polish, appeared to discriminate against speakers of Russian, the most widely used non-state language.
“The less favorable treatment of these (non-EU) languages is difficult to justify and therefore raises issues of discrimination,†it said.
Language is a sensitive issue in Ukraine.
After the pro-European Maidan uprising in 2014, the decision to scrap a law allowing some regions to use Russian as an official second language fueled anti-Ukrainian unrest in the east that escalated into a Russia-backed separatist insurgency.

Ukraine said it was willing to discuss minorities’ concerns and will bear the commission’s opinion and recommendations in mind when fine-tuning the law."


This was back in 2017; since then Ukraine "discussed minorities concerns," (NOT) and decided to outlaw Russian language in schools all together starting from this school year while extending "transitional period" for "EU languages" for another three years.

When one of Rada deputies from the Eastern part of the country came up with proposal ( only PROPOSAL) of a law to give the same extension to Russian speakers, -



this was the reaction that followed in Kiev; - the hysteria of Ukrainian nationalists that regarded it as "Russian revanche"



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edorUB8vOPY


So this year Ukraine obligated ALL Russian schools to switch to Ukrainian ( I suppose that they had to exclude the elementary schools from 1 to 4th grade, since there children simply won't be able to understand what they are taught, if they'll be forced to speak Ukrainian.)
But for 5-11th graders - 80% of subjects must be taught already in Ukrainian, with "summer camps" set for "improvement of knowledge of Ukrainian language."

And this is one of the reasons why Ukraine is doomed as "one and undivided state."

That forcible "Ukrainianization" that came from the Western part of the country and destroyed the South-East.
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Old 09-02-2020, 07:35 AM
 
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That language law is discriminatory.
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Old 09-02-2020, 10:37 AM
 
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That language law is discriminatory.

Of course it's discriminatory, but as long as it's anti-Russian, it's all good.

The West is far more interested in protecting the "rights of the Belorussian people" at this point.
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Old 09-02-2020, 11:37 AM
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Anybody can criticize anybody they want. But in Russia, it gets you treated with Soviet era nerve agent Novichok like what happened to Navalny for daring to expose official corruption. Russians are supposed to love being poor and making their masters rich in exchange for "stability".
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Old 09-02-2020, 12:45 PM
 
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Anybody can criticize anybody they want.

I am not even "criticizing" DKM - I am downright pointing at the *wuthering heights* of Western hypocrisy.

Can you imagine the reverse situation, where the Eastern Ukraine would outlaw ANY non-Russian language in schools?

The howling coming from the West would be to high heaven.

But the innocent group of people that was left in this vulnerable situation - the Eastern Ukrainians that were betrayed by Moscow in the first place, THEIR rights are non-existent as far as the West is concerned.

I already explained the reason why.


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But in Russia, it gets you treated with Soviet era nerve agent Novichok like what happened to Navalny for daring to expose official corruption. Russians are supposed to love being poor and making their masters rich in exchange for "stability".

Going back to exhibit "A" here -



"Do you understand now, how dumb the West was, when it decided to place all the money, all the riches of the country in few hands in the name of "fighting Communism" and creating "private property" in Russia overnight?

Because with riches, all the political power went into those few hands as well.
And once there - why would these people want to part with it?"


And when you have the authoritarian regime, there is no control over legal system - honest investigation who did what, why and when including.
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Old 09-02-2020, 01:42 PM
 
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You liked Novichok before. You'll love the sequel Novichok returns.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ok/5690880002/

Guess this means Navalny will be sequestered like Skripal so he can't talk openly about what happened. They reuse the same plots over and over and one of the deadliest military toxins never kills anybody.
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