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View Poll Results: After The Election, Should Barack Obama Still Be Forced To Produce A Valid Birth Certificate?
Yes 56 52.34%
No 43 40.19%
Other 6 5.61%
Not Sure 2 1.87%
Voters: 107. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-01-2008, 02:30 PM
 
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2. Really, where does it say this? The news article only states that the Certificate of Live Birth has been seen. No official source that I know of has stated that his Certificate of Live Birth shows his place of birth as Hawaii.
Tymberwulf -

We have two documents.

One is the so-called vault copy, or original, of the birth certificate.

One is the copy prepared at Senator Obama's request. There are several of those.

The first one has been verified as being there. The second has been verified as containing the information that is on the first.

The second one says he was born in Hawaii. It is copied from the first. Hmm... guess what?

That means that the first says he was born in Hawaii, too.

As far as I can tell, nothing will ever satisfy you, singularly or plurally.
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Old 11-01-2008, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Central Maine
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Sorry - came over to bump this thread up and got sidetracked.

The Associated Press: State declares Obama birth certificate genuine

I dont see any mention fo this at MSNBC, NBC, CBS, NYT, WaPo - any of the MSM. Nothing at Fox, no disappointment there.

So - wouldnt you think, being all in the tank for Obama as they are, the liberal elitist media would be falling all over themselves to clear the Dear Leader's name, and to smack down the right wing "press?"
Sorry, but this hasn't really been a burning issue with the mainstream press - just the conservative press and the way-out-there rabid right whack jobs.
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Old 11-01-2008, 02:39 PM
 
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Wow, 6 days his dying granny quickly recovers from a fake illness it is now called genuine.

I do not believe it, I would like real EXPERTS to make this decision, not some bought off political hack that Obama talked to last week.

Lets allow the FBI and other experts decide this. I do not believe it is real from the dates being wrong on the fake one.

The one that everyone is looking at his is sisters made over.
The Governor is a hack??

From the AP.

Health Department Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said Friday she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate.

Fukino says that no state official, including Republican Gov. Linda Lingle, ever instructed that Obama's certificate be handled differently.

She says state law bars release of a certified birth certificate to anyone who does not have a tangible interest.

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Old 11-04-2008, 11:59 AM
 
Location: West, Southwest, East & Northeast
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Old 11-04-2008, 12:13 PM
 
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sad this is all THAT ONE can come up with.
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Old 11-04-2008, 12:27 PM
 
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sad this is all THAT ONE can come up with.
This birth certificate is about as real as Obama is! You'll find out soon enough what a pathetic mistake people voting for Obama made.
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Old 11-04-2008, 12:41 PM
 
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This birth certificate is about as real as Obama is! You'll find out soon enough what a pathetic mistake people voting for Obama made.
Whatever, alt master
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Old 11-04-2008, 12:47 PM
 
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Whatever, alt master
LOL. When faced with the truth, he retorts with child-like posts. What do you think? High school or middle school?
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Old 12-07-2008, 01:01 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Default Why the stories about Obama's birth certificate will never die

According to this article, conspiracy theory posters are never going to let the "Obama can't be president, because he's not native born die down." The chances are slim the SCOTUS will decide to hear the case. Over the past eight years the court has considered in conference 842 cases that sought a stay. Only 60 of them were actually heard. Seven hundred and eighty-two were denied. Interesting observations about conspiracy theorists in the article.
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Not surprisingly, almost all of the people who've been most prominent in pushing this story have a history of conspiracist thought. There's Jerome Corsi, who's best known as the co-author of the book that launched the Swift boat vets; he's a chief proponent of the claim that the government is secretly planning to form a "North American Union" with Canada and Mexico. Philip Berg, who filed the lawsuit that had until now drawn the most public attention, is a 9/11 Truther. Andy Martin, who's credited with starting the myth that Obama is a Muslim and has been intimately involved in the birth certificate mess as well, was denied admission to the Illinois bar because of a psychiatric evaluation that showed he had "moderately severe character defect manifested by well-documented ideation with a paranoid flavor and a grandiose character." He also has a long history of anti-Semitism. Robert Schulz, who's responsible for the ads in the Tribune, is a fairly notorious tax protester. In 2007, a federal judge ordered Schulz to shutter his Web site because he and his organization were, in the words of the Justice Department's Tax Division, using the site to promote "a nationwide tax-fraud scheme."

We could be dealing with the repercussions of the tangled web these people have woven for years after Obama is inaugurated. We already have some hints of what's to come. Gary Kreep, who heads the United States Justice Foundation and is representing Alan Keyes in one of the lawsuits over the president-elect's eligibility, has said his group will file suit to challenge each and every one of Obama's actions as president.

He may well inspire others. There are a surprising number of people out there -- tax protesters, for instance -- who rely on similarly creative legal thinking based on conspiracy theories for their defense. So don't be too surprised if, sometime after Jan. 20, defendants in federal trials suddenly claim they can't be prosecuted. If Obama isn't really president, then laws he signs have no effect, Department of Justice prosecutors have no authority and judges he appoints aren't legally judges. Anyone who tells you otherwise is just part of the conspiracy.

Salon.com News | Why the stories about Obama's birth certificate will never die
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Old 12-07-2008, 02:54 AM
 
Location: Imaginary Figment
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Those Nigerian scams still get fools to send them millions every year...

Just sayin.
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