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Old 10-09-2008, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Moose Jaw, in between the Moose's butt and nose.
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Thanks for not contributing one darn thing to the thread...
What do you mean? Obama could not find out something, about a major company going bankrupt, the reasons why, in the same manner than you and I could?
By staying on top of the news and reading a......paper or magazine?
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Old 10-09-2008, 11:41 AM
 
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What do you mean? Obama could not find out something, about a major company going bankrupt, the reasons why, in the same manner than you and I could?
By staying on top of the news and reading a......paper or magazine?
Note, Palin is not the topic of the thread (even though I noted that you couldnt help insulting her out of left field), but... A company going bankrupt could be due to hundreds of reasons, not always CEO fraud, and not always reported in the paper.. (in fact the reason WHY, is rarely noted)

Are you now proposing that CEO's should be buying reportes to report false news stories about why their companies have gone down? Please find a few news stories where CEO's admit.. Yes, I messed up, it was my fault to a reporter..
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Old 10-09-2008, 11:56 AM
 
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Now that the base of this thread has built up a little bit.

Zeitgeist: Addendum

Learn who you're true master is.
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Old 10-09-2008, 12:31 PM
 
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Now that the base of this thread has built up a little bit.

Zeitgeist: Addendum

Learn who you're true master is.

After watching this video ask yourself what "change" actually is.
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Old 10-09-2008, 10:06 PM
 
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On January 20, 1993, the first day of Bill Clinton's 1st term as president, the Dow Jones closed at 3,241

On January 19, 2001, the last day of Bill Clinton's 2nd term as president, the Dow Jones closed at 10,587

That is a 226% gain in the stock market during Clinton's 8 years.

And what is the Dow Jones trading at today .... Oct 9, 2008 ?

Allow me to tell you ... IT'S 8,579

Which currently represents a 19% loss in the stock market during Bush's 8 years (to present date).

Feel free to confirm my above numbers yourself here at Yahoo Finanace:

APPARENTLY CLINTON DID NOT LEAVE SUCH A BAD ECONOMY TO BUSH!

Clinton also left office with a $500 Billion Budget SURPLUS, and the National Debt was around 5.5 Trillion Dollars.

Today we have a $500 Billion Budget DEFICIT and the National Debt has grown to over 10 Trillion Dollars.

YOU WERE SAYING ABOUT MY HISTORY ?????
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Old 10-09-2008, 10:11 PM
 
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Old 10-09-2008, 10:19 PM
 
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The post above speaks volumes. Clinton cut funds for the military causing the "unprepared military" for the 9/11 response.

You can not forget 9/11 in terms of economy. The tax cuts where there to curb 9/11 and the 10th worst stock market crash of all time in the US. The bubble was set. The housing market deregulated. The system was setup to fail. Bush tried over and over to fix it only to come in conflict with democrats.

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New Agency Proposed to Oversee Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae - New York Times

September 11, 2003
The Bush administration today recommended the most significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago
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Old 10-09-2008, 10:26 PM
 
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CEO's plan their hiring and layoffs a year ahead of time, do you have any experience in budgets?
Hey, guess what's gonna' happen next year???
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Old 10-09-2008, 11:49 PM
 
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Please list some "handouts" by Bush... Last I checked, corporations pay more taxes now then when Bush entered office..
Found the article from the image you posted.

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http://cdn.factcheck.org/imagefiles/federal%20revenue%20bar%20chart(1).jpg (broken link)

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Sen. John McCain has said President Bush's tax cuts have increased federal revenues. But revenues would have been even higher without them.
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Old 10-09-2008, 11:52 PM
 
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Yet Buffett starts by making the extraordinary claim that he and his receptionist currently both pay the same 30% of their very different incomes to the federal government. This is pretty much impossible unless receptionists in Omaha are paid more than the CEO's of the companies they work for. Buffett takes a salary of $100,000 from Berkshire Hathaway (according to the company's most recent proxy statement) -- and assuming that his receptionist makes the same amount, then her average federal tax rate would be something like 16%, according to the IRS's online calculator. Adding the 6.2% payroll tax paid by her employer, we get to about 22%. Her salary would have to be about $250,000 to get up to the 30% Buffett claims. Can I have her job?
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Mr Buffett said that he was taxed at 17.7% on the $46 million he made last year, without trying to avoid paying higher taxes, while his secretary, who earned $60,000, was taxed at 30%
http://tusb.stanford.edu/2007/07/war...lower_tax.html
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