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Old 05-04-2016, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Denver CO
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Probably your incessant whining about the rules and your hypocrisy and flip flopping to fit the narrative of your dear Hillary.
My hypocrisy? Hmmm, my candidate isn't the one who railed against superdelegates until he decided that he was instead going to ask them to ignore the clearly expressed will of the voters and hand him an election that he hadn't won. Your "dear Bernie" is.

 
Old 05-04-2016, 10:14 AM
 
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And your point is what?
My point is I've heard this over and over and this seemed to be a good place to bring it up again.

I left out the sour grapes part.

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Hillary's campaign predicted Indiana as a loss days before the election. While not wanting to be rude to voters, they knew it doesn't matter in the outcome of the primary or even the general election as they aren't going to invest the time or money trying to flip it for the general. That's why she spend $0 in advertising vs. Bernie's $1.8 million which netted him 5 more delegates. $360,000 per delegate - that's 13333 donations of $27 per delegate.

It's the start of another momentum roll.
 
Old 05-04-2016, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Denver CO
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My point is I've heard this over and over and this seemed to be a good place to bring it up again.

I left out the sour grapes part.




It's the start of another momentum roll.
Hillary can lose every state left by a sizeable margin and still have more than enough delegates. It's over and "momentum" doesn't change that.
 
Old 05-04-2016, 10:17 AM
 
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My hypocrisy? Hmmm, my candidate isn't the one who railed against superdelegates until he decided that he was instead going to ask them to ignore the clearly expressed will of the voters and hand him an election that he hadn't won. Your "dear Bernie" is.
Super Delegates are under no obligation to vote the will of the people....or so the article posted earlier argued.
 
Old 05-04-2016, 10:20 AM
 
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Hillary can lose every state left by a sizeable margin and still have more than enough delegates. It's over and "momentum" doesn't change that.
It most certainly does. After today Trump is free to go after Hillary. To set the tone of the election. Hillary still has to concentrate the next couple months trying to defeat the Sanders insurgency.

Maybe she can a video to blame this all on.
 
Old 05-04-2016, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Denver CO
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It most certainly does. After today Trump is free to go after Hillary. To set the tone of the election. Hillary still has to concentrate the next couple months trying to defeat the Sanders insurgency.

Maybe she can a video to blame this all on.
Hillary will continue to ignore Bernie like she did in Indiana. There is no insurgency, it's over. Bernie paid almost 2 million dollars to gain a few percentage points and a handful of delegates and increased the percentage he needs to win all the remaining states by. Hillary has already pivoted to the general election and campaigning against Trump.
 
Old 05-04-2016, 10:28 AM
 
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Hillary will continue to ignore Bernie like she did in Indiana. There is no insurgency, it's over. Bernie paid almost 2 million dollars to gain a few percentage points and a handful of delegates and increased the percentage he needs to win all the remaining states by. Hillary has already pivoted to the general election and campaigning against Trump.
Those millions donated by millions of people not interested in ever seeing Hillary win are still rolling in.

They are telling Bernie to NOT drop out. To keep the pressure on.
 
Old 05-04-2016, 10:39 AM
 
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Super Delegates are under no obligation to vote the will of the people....or so the article posted earlier argued.
Cool
Don't whine when sanders still can't sway superdelegates by the convention.
 
Old 05-04-2016, 10:47 AM
 
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For May primaries, sanders will likely win West Virginia and Oregon, but I believe Hillary will win Kentucky

West Virginia is just too small to change the course with only 29 delegates... There is also early voting

Oregon has closed primary, so u definitely won't see the margin he got in Washington. I would say he wins by about 10-15%, the mail in voting method will help Hillary turn in her demographics just like early voting

Kentucky has closed primary too and is quite closed
Hillary overwhelmingly won most of Kentucky's bordering counties in Ohio Indiana Tennessee virginia and Missouri, check the map: Detailed Maps of Where Trump, Cruz, Clinton and Sanders Have Won 2016 - The New York Times
 
Old 05-04-2016, 10:56 AM
 
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