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Yes, he has had more flip flops than Romney ever thought about having.
Remember, those on the left do not consider a flip flop by Obama as a flip flop, only changing his mind. When the other guy changes his mind, That is a flip flop.
Just ask these self proclaimed superior intellectuals, they will tell you that they have to be correct because of who they are.
Those are very narrow issues, romney flip flops on big things like abortion.
hell he even dissed ronald regan then said he supported.
negotiating over small budget items like the nuclear option is not really comparable
plus Obama rejected that nuclear option before Sen Brown got to the senate.
If Obama does it, his followers call it "open minded".
If a Republican does it, they call it flip-flopping.
I agree completely, except that I don't think it's necessarily a Democrat vs. Republican thing. Everybody admires someone who is open-minded and willing to change his position on something over time -- as long as they like the person whose changing his mind. If they like the person, they're "open-minded" and "flexible," "willing to admit they were wrong," etc. If they don't like him, the exact same characteristics are known as "flip-flopping." This isn't just in politics, but is even more noticeable in politics.
Those are very narrow issues, romney flip flops on big things like abortion.
hell he even dissed ronald regan then said he supported.
negotiating over small budget items like the nuclear option is not really comparable
plus Obama rejected that nuclear option before Sen Brown got to the senate.
Obama promised the American people big things that he either had no intention of fulfilling or broke at the first chance he had.
-No lobbyists in his staff -- flip flop
-Most transparent government ever, 5 days of public debate -- flip flopped multiple times on in his first month
-Cut the deficit in half -- never even tried
-Coal -- he literally changed his stance depending on what state he was currently in
These are big things, these are promises that he made and broke, how can you trust flip flop Obama?
Obama promised the American people big things that he either had no intention of fulfilling or broke at the first chance he had.
-No lobbyists in his staff -- flip flop
-Most transparent government ever, 5 days of public debate -- flip flopped multiple times on in his first month
-Cut the deficit in half -- never even tried
-Coal -- he literally changed his stance depending on what state he was currently in
These are big things, these are promises that he made and broke, how can you trust flip flop Obama?
There are two types of lobbyist corporate interest and advocacy groups
.Obama said any ""new"" staff members would not be lobbyist.
which is true none of his new staff are lobbyist(corporate interest)
all the corporate interest people are hold overs from the bush administration.
The only new lobbyist obama has on his team is a guy from a anti-teen smoking advocacy group thats hardly a corporate interest lobbyist.
as far as the deficit bohener walked away the debts deal not his fault.
as far as coal,he has been ok with coal as long as they meet certain requirements he proposed the new rules they went into affect and some plants couldnt live with that.
adjusting to governing is alot different than changing your mind on a campaign trail because of polls. We live in a democrtic republic no president can get what he wants.
* He ripped Hillary Clinton for months for voting to list Iran's Revolutionary Guard as a terrorist organization. Days after Clinton conceded, Obama flipped and said he supported the definition.
* Obama repeatedly vowed to meet with various heads of terror states - most notably Ahmadinejad of Iran - "without preconditions." Then, with the nomination in sight, he zigzagged: "There's no reason why we would necessarily meet with Ahmadinejad. He's not the most powerful person in Iran."
* In October, he supported NAFTA expansion. In March, campaigning in the Ohio primary, he called for a "reopening" of the trade pact's terms. This week, he called his own primary rhetoric "overheated" and said NAFTA has had a positive effect on the US economy.
* Yesterday, after signaling opposition to nuclear power, he told Democratic governors he's open to expanding it.
I believe you fail to understand that candidates for public office ... any public office ... typically tell us they'll do one thing and then after being elected frequently do the opposite. Once someone is in office, in this case assuming the role of President, the situations are entirely different than what one encounters in a "what if" on the campaign. This is true of all Presidents.
I believe you fail to understand that candidates for public office ... any public office ... typically tell us they'll do one thing and then after being elected frequently do the opposite. Once someone is in office, in this case assuming the role of President, the situations are entirely different than what one encounters in a "what if" on the campaign. This is true of all Presidents.
So, in your opinion, this makes reniging on promises alright?
I agree completely, except that I don't think it's necessarily a Democrat vs. Republican thing. Everybody admires someone who is open-minded and willing to change his position on something over time -- as long as they like the person whose changing his mind. If they like the person, they're "open-minded" and "flexible," "willing to admit they were wrong," etc. If they don't like him, the exact same characteristics are known as "flip-flopping." This isn't just in politics, but is even more noticeable in politics.
Quite true.
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