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Critically thinking Obama supporters have become concerned over his many position shifts:
The New York Times ran an editorial with the headline New And Not Improved. "We are not shocked when a candidate moves to the centre for the general election," it said. "But Mr Obama's shifts are striking because he was the candidate who proposed to change the face of politics, the man of passionate convictions who did not play old political games."
By far the biggest group at social networking site mybarackobama.com, with more than 23,000 members, is called Senator Obama - Please Vote No On Telecom Immunity - Get FISA Right. In defeat, user comments revealed a potentially damaging breach. Justin from Minnesota wrote: "it cost him my vote and I hope it will cost him the votes of many others." Alejandro from Seattle lamented that he "thought the whole point of the Obama campaign was to not be like other politicians".
Salon's editor-in-chief, Joan Walsh, described Obama's U-turn on FISA as "unforgivable" and wrote that she no longer admired him at all.
Sunday Herald: International: International (http://www.sundayherald.com/international/shinternational/display.var.2392769.0.0.php - broken link)
^ he is, and a much worse flip flopper. I think if the GOP really wants to run with this flip flop accusation its going to blow up in their faces.
What's irritating is that Democrats haven't called him out on it as much as they could have. He has some pretty damning evidence against him bending in the wind to appease the more right wing in the party, but no ones used it against him yet.
it'll happen. This whole election season is going to be McCain having the GOP run a slander filled anti Obama ad, then denouncing it...and Obama having the Dems run a slander filled anti McCain ad, then denouncing it.
And who would have thought this thread was about Obama losing supporters by the day.
The only liberal family who was supporting Obama and is no longer voting for him ( They finally came around ) has had enough of his fllp flopping not just on the FISA but she feels he betrayed the troops with his refining crap and wont vote for him. One more vote for McCain as Kev says.
NewtoCA- please dont allow these people to hijack threads one after another, this is getting old. Every time one of us post something about Obama they hijack it and change the subject which is against TOS.
Obama has flip flopped far more on critical issues. I dont mind someone changing their mind but he is only doing it when the pressure shows he was wrong, this is flip flopping and taking brides to change positions.
He has done this with his votes in the Senate, with Iraq and now with FISA and will do so again with oil once he finds he is losing tons of momentum he used to have.
There is a difference and you guys keep defending him with NO ANSWERS but just attacks at the other candidate.
Please stop hijacking every single Obama negative thread. It is against the TOS.
And who would have thought this thread was about Obama losing supporters by the day.
The only liberal family who was supporting Obama and is no longer voting for him ( They finally came around ) has had enough of his fllp flopping not just on the FISA but she feels he betrayed the troops with his refining crap and wont vote for him. One more vote for McCain as Kev says.
NewtoCA- please dont allow these people to hijack threads one after another, this is getting old. Every time one of us post something about Obama they hijack it and change the subject which is against TOS.
Obama has flip flopped far more on critical issues. I dont mind someone changing their mind but he is only doing it when the pressure shows he was wrong, this is flip flopping and taking brides to change positions.
He has done this with his votes in the Senate, with Iraq and now with FISA and will do so again with oil once he finds he is losing tons of momentum he used to have.
There is a difference and you guys keep defending him with NO ANSWERS but just attacks at the other candidate.
Please stop hijacking every single Obama negative thread. It is against the TOS.
To answer that: please refer to another thread in this forum in which a poster listed every so-called "flip flop" McCain has made in the last few years. Its enlightening.
To answer that: please refer to another thread in this forum in which a poster listed every so-called "flip flop" McCain has made in the last few years. Its enlightening.
Again, there is a huge difference in flip flopping and changing your mind because someone convinced you that you were wrong.
Flip flopping we all are taking about such as this thread is that Obama flip flopped ONLY after he got the nomination for the good of HIM and not you.
Why cant you people see what this man has done to you? He has lied and betrayed your trust only after the fact.
Some of us already know he is up to no good and understand exactly the difference in him between the time he hooked many of you and now.
And that is called flip flopping after the fact and only "after" you all placed him in a position that the "majority of you did not vote" for. Amazing to me that when the majority speaks and it is tossed out. Guess liberals are not for the "majority vote" then and this proves it.
Sad, but it is the truth.
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I dont know that I feel betrayed, but I stopped wearing them when that cutting-between-your-toes feeling just got to be too much.
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