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Old 01-24-2012, 11:40 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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And don't forget ...'Washington Outsider'...what a laugh!
Whoever calls Newt that has no knowledge of his past.
Most of you critics know very little about Newt's past. You only know the propaganda your party puts out (and unfortunately, some of what the Republican establishment puts out, because they are hell bent on Romney).

This article was posted today on American Thinker:
"Gingrich has been fearlessly taking it to the Democrats since the mid-1980s, when he started making inflammatory speeches on the empty House floor [Special Orders]. Democrats got so annoyed that they changed the camera rules to show the empty benches that Newt was speaking to, and they taught the mainstream media to call Gingrich a "bombthrower." Newt took the hint, and in 1994 bombed the Democrats out of the House leadership after 40 years in the majority. You'd think you'd been carpet-bombed too if that had happened to you."
Read more: Articles: Newt Gingrich Is Shameless
And yesterday:
"The left, of course, will try to destroy Gingrich, just as it has been trying to destroy him since he forced Speaker Jim Wright into disgraceful retirement in 1989. Today, the attack will be on his personal life -- this by the same leftists who loved Bill Clinton, who ignored the ghastly behavior of John Edwards, and who since JFK have said that the private life of a political leader is not important -- but the left's real fear of Gingrich comes from Gingrich's understanding of the weaknesses of leftism and the ways to defeat it."


"There was a reason why union goons entered Gingrich's offices and why House Democrats filed 84 ethics charges (one of which stuck, and most of which were absurd) against Gingrich when he was speaker and why Nancy Pelosi threatened to raise these ancient charges yet again. Not only was Gingrich liberals' enemy, but he defeated them."

Read more: Articles: Gingrich v. Leftism

Yes, a little knowledge of his past is certainly helpful to understanding why he won in S. Carolina. Learn it.
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Old 01-24-2012, 11:42 AM
 
Location: New-Dentist Colony
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Please, GOP, nominate Pig Newton. I beg of you. I cannot wait to see this obese, thrice-married, philandering lobbyist who, after spending his entire career in Washington, was run out of Congress on a rail and has since been lobbying for FannieMae go up against our president. I salivate at the prospect.

On the other hand, you could nominate Mittens--with his Swiss bank accounts; Cayman Island tax shelters; record of job-killing; healthcare mandate that he bragged was the basis of Obama's before he said it wasn't; and his kindness toward animals, evinced by leaving the family dog in a crate on top of the car for an eight-hour drive, whereupon said dog lost his bowel control. What a guy.

Or you could nominate Senator Frothy Mix. Whose main policy proposal seems to be another war in the Middle East against another country whose name begins with an "I." Who thinks gay people are the same as someone who has sex with animals. Who got booted from office in his home state, losing by 18 percentage points.

Choices, choices...
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Old 01-24-2012, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Texas
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On the other hand, you could nominate Mittens--with his Swiss bank accounts, Cayman Island tax shelters, record of job-killing, his healthcare mandate that he bragged was the basis of Obama's before he said it wasn't.
As far as the Swiss bank account and Cayman Islands thing, he did NOTHING illegal.

He created over 100,000 net new jobs. I'm sure those who work at Staples, Domino's, and the like today are very pleased to have their jobs.

His healthcare mandate was a state mandate, not a federal one, and he wants to repeal Obamacare.

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Old 01-24-2012, 11:51 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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This is tongue in cheek....right ? OUtsider.....?
He came in as an "outsider". Helped to defeat the Democrats in 1994 and deliver the house to the Republicans for the first time in 40 years ("Contract with America"). He ousted corrupt Jim Wright (Democrats hate him for that), so they filed phoney ethics charges against him. Only one stuck.

He has been an outsider again for some many years, consulting and giving speaches. So, technically, he is an "outsider".
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Old 01-24-2012, 11:53 AM
 
Location: New-Dentist Colony
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As far as the Swiss bank accounts and Cayman Island "tax shelters", he did NOTHING illegal.

He created over 100,000 net new jobs. I'm sure those who work at Staples, Domino's, and the like today are very pleased to have their jobs.

His healthcare mandate was a state mandate, not a federal one, and he wants to repeal Obamacare.
Illegal? Perhaps not. I'm no accountant. But he's definitely hiding something. I mean, who has a Swiss bank account? That just screams hinky.

The jobs claim has been shown over and over to be bogus. He's counting jobs that got created after Bain left. When they were in charge, they cut thousands of American jobs.

Re. the mandate: It was only a state mandate because he was the governor. Had he been president, who knows what he might have done? What we do know is that he's previously said he thought it was a great blueprint for the federal government. The guy is two-faced.
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Old 01-24-2012, 11:59 AM
 
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He came in as an "outsider". Helped to defeat the Democrats in 1994 and deliver the house to the Republicans for the first time in 40 years ("Contract with America"). He ousted corrupt Jim Wright (Democrats hate him for that), so they filed phoney ethics charges against him. Only one stuck.

He has been an outsider again for some many years, consulting and giving speaches. So, technically, he is an "outsider".
He was in Congress long before that and an aide long before that. He started as an aide to Rockefeller in 1968. And regarding his activities since then: if you think "consulting" iin Washington to quasi-federal entities is not influence pedding--especially when you've been speaker of the House--I've got a bridge to sell you. (This is true for Dems as well.)

The House dropped the other charges in the interest of having everyone move on. It's like when a criminal is guilty of several different crimes connected to one incident but pleas guilty to only one, in exchange for a reduced sentence. They wanted Newt gone; he agreed to leave and to pay the $300K fine, in exchange for reducing the charges.
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Old 01-24-2012, 12:18 PM
 
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He created over 100,000 net new jobs. I'm sure those who work at Staples, Domino's, and the like today are very pleased to have their jobs.

Really? Looks like someone may disagree with you. Guess what? That someone is Mitt Romney!

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When asked about his job-creation claim during the 1994 Senate campaign—that he had helped create 10,000 jobs at various companies (a claim he expanded during his 2012 presidential campaign to having "helped to create tens of thousands" of jobs)—Romney responded with a careful hedge. He emphasized that he always used the word "helped" and didn’t take full credit for the jobs. "That’s why I’m always very careful to use the words ‘help create,' " he acknowledged. "Bain Capital, or Mitt Romney, ‘helped create’ over 10,000 jobs. I don’t take credit for the jobs at Staples. I helped create the jobs at Staples."

Howard Anderson, a professor at M.I.T.’s Sloan School of Management and a former entrepreneur who has invested with Bain, put it more plainly: "What you really cannot do is claim every job was because of your good judgment," he said. "You’re not really running those organizations. You’re financing it; you’re offering your judgment and your advice. I think you can only really claim credit for the jobs of the company that you ran."

Who Is Mitt Romney? - The Dish | By Andrew Sullivan - The Daily Beast
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Old 01-24-2012, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Really? Looks like someone may disagree with you. Guess what? That someone is Mitt Romney!
He said that in 1994 - 18 years ago. Did you ever consider what happened after that?
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