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Old 06-27-2011, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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I have or wonder how they feel about the socialist governement funded farm subsidies that she receives. I hope she wins the nomination as I cannot wait for this question to come up in a debate.
obviously you didn't watch her interview yesterday with Chris Wallace.

Nita
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Old 06-28-2011, 06:11 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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I have or wonder how they feel about the socialist governement funded farm subsidies that she receives. I hope she wins the nomination as I cannot wait for this question to come up in a debate.
"Your efforts to stabilize prices through direct government purchasing of pork and dairy products are very much welcomed by the producers in Minnesota, and I would encourage you to take any additional steps necessary to prevent further deterioration of these critical industries"_____Bachmann in a letter to the Secretary of Agriculture


She's against government interference and people sucking from the government teat except when she's for it. Must be a true test of her make-up needing to cover two sides of her mouth and all

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Old 06-28-2011, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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What part of smaller government wants to be in your bedroom?? What part of smaller government wants to amend the constitution to take rights away from people?? What part of smaller government wants to investigate members of Congress for being anti-American??

Bachmann's in your face hard core social conservatism is not going to sit well with the moderate Republicans (the few that remain anyway), and while she could still be able to win the nomination, her chances of winning the general are zilch.
Your reply to me mixes apples and oranges.

JazzyTallGuy said this:

"We already know Bachman is a favorite of the Tea Party but how will she do with more moderate Republicans."

JazzyTallGuys's statement implies that the Tea Party stances (fiscal responsibilty, limited government, free markets) are not shared by moderate Republicans. The Tea Party takes no stand on social issues so I asked JazzyTallGuy to enlighten me and tell me what he thought moderate Republicans stood for.

Mission Statement
"The impetus for the Tea Party movement is excessive government spending and taxation. Our mission is to attract, educate, organize, and mobilize our fellow citizens to secure public policy consistent with our three core values of Fiscal Responsibility, Constitutionally Limited Government and Free Markets. "


Core Values
•Fiscal Responsibility
•Constitutionally Limited Government
•Free Markets

Tea Party Patriots | Mission Statement and Core Values (http://www.teapartypatriots.org/Mission.aspx - broken link)


This is why I don't understand the "extremism" ignorant taunts flung at the tea party by some libs. What part of fiscal responsibility, limited government and free markets is extreme? Which of those 3 values aren't shared by "moderate" Republicans and what DO they actually stand for?
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Old 06-28-2011, 07:25 AM
 
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This is why I don't understand the "extremism" ignorant taunts flung at the tea party by some libs. What part of fiscal responsibility, limited government and free markets is extreme? Which of those 3 values aren't shared by "moderate" Republicans and what DO they actually stand for?
How can Bachmann be the darling of a party supporting free markets when she applauds the direct government purchasing of products in order to affect market prices?
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Old 06-28-2011, 07:38 AM
 
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Romney doesn't need Iowa. Pawlenty needs Iowa and Bachmann needs Iowa. Out of the two who need to win Iowa, which ever one doesn't win the caucus will probably bow out.
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Old 06-28-2011, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Romney doesn't need Iowa. Pawlenty needs Iowa and Bachmann needs Iowa. Out of the two who need to win Iowa, which ever one doesn't win the caucus will probably bow out.
so now ther "other side" is saying it doesn't make any difference, so and so doesn't need thus and so. Sounds to me like the left is getting worried about Romney's chances, knowing he would be easier to beat in 2012 than a few other possible choices. If this isn't the case, what do you care who gets the support of what state and why are you even commenting?

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Old 06-28-2011, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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I have or wonder how they feel about the socialist governement funded farm subsidies that she receives. I hope she wins the nomination as I cannot wait for this question to come up in a debate.
I ruled Michele Bachmann out for her lack of governing/leadership experience. I'm not even paying attention to her on the issues because I don't think she's qualified for the job. Ditto Santorum, Gingrich, Paul. It's easy to have ideas, sponsor bills, make speeches, talk to the media and vote but when the rubber meets the road and that "stuff" they do in Congress has to be implemented and applied, it's the governors and the local officials that do the heavy lifting.

I'm waiting for some media person on TV to ask them exactly how Congressional (or lawyer, doctor, consultant, professor) experience translates to managing a country. But the Obama fanboys in the media won't do it or it would expose their ideas guy as one who is having trouble now because he never ran anything in his life. And the non-Obama fanboys in the media won't do it either lest they lose access to 4 candidates and the audience that supports them.
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Old 06-28-2011, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Your reply to me mixes apples and oranges.

JazzyTallGuy said this:

"We already know Bachman is a favorite of the Tea Party but how will she do with more moderate Republicans."

JazzyTallGuys's statement implies that the Tea Party stances (fiscal responsibilty, limited government, free markets) are not shared by moderate Republicans. The Tea Party takes no stand on social issues so I asked JazzyTallGuy to enlighten me and tell me what he thought moderate Republicans stood for.

Mission Statement
"The impetus for the Tea Party movement is excessive government spending and taxation. Our mission is to attract, educate, organize, and mobilize our fellow citizens to secure public policy consistent with our three core values of Fiscal Responsibility, Constitutionally Limited Government and Free Markets. "


Core Values
•Fiscal Responsibility
•Constitutionally Limited Government
•Free Markets

Tea Party Patriots | Mission Statement and Core Values (http://www.teapartypatriots.org/Mission.aspx - broken link)


This is why I don't understand the "extremism" ignorant taunts flung at the tea party by some libs. What part of fiscal responsibility, limited government and free markets is extreme? Which of those 3 values aren't shared by "moderate" Republicans and what DO they actually stand for?

That might be how the tea party actually started out, but the tea party is now controlled by the furthest right of the religious right. Two of the most popular figures among the tea party crowd is Michelle Bachmann and Jim Demint, two of the most extreme social conservatives, and biggest gay bashers in either chamber.
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Old 06-28-2011, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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so now ther "other side" is saying it doesn't make any difference, so and so doesn't need thus and so. Sounds to me like the left is getting worried about Romney's chances, knowing he would be easier to beat in 2012 than a few other possible choices. If this isn't the case, what do you care who gets the support of what state and why are you even commenting?

Nita
What?? Romney easier to beat than the others huh??

I think perhaps Romney might be easier to beat than Huntsman, but I would say Romney is the 2nd strongest in the GOP field as far as a General election goes. The rest of the GOP field is filled with those unacceptable to moderates, and the ones that use to be acceptable to moderates are trying to run as far away from that platform as possible (Pawlenty)
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Old 06-28-2011, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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That might be how the tea party actually started out, but the tea party is now controlled by the furthest right of the religious right. Two of the most popular figures among the tea party crowd is Michelle Bachmann and Jim Demint, two of the most extreme social conservatives, and biggest gay bashers in either chamber.
Bachmann does claim to be apart of the Tea Party and looking at most polls people do not like the Tea Party movement. Bachmann should be concern with being seeing as a extremists, if true I don't see how she can win the nomination or general election. I also agree that Iowa is almost do or die for her campaign.
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