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Old 09-08-2010, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Washington state
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But wait!! You're using a right-leaning analyst to bolster the argument?

Why not take Nate, or Cook, or pollster.com or any of a number of dem-leaners, who will tell you that the Senate is a TALL order and NO ONE thought it would even be in play, until just recently.

Nate hasn't made a House forecast as of yet, but just like Sabato, he has the GOP close to taking the Senate. Right now, he has the odds at 1 in 4..

Republicans Have One-in-Four Chance to Claim Senate Majority, Model Shows - NYTimes.com

Again, in this position in Sept, with momentum going all your way, if you don't take the Senate, it should be looked upon as a major disappointment. I can guarantee you, that no matter what they may say publicly, GOP leaders feel the same way..
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Old 09-08-2010, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Not having the Senate is perfectly fine esp. if enough blue dogs Dems are around. Fiscally speaking, it will be as if we have a Republican majority anyway. People care too much about party rather than the voting record of the candidate.
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Old 09-08-2010, 10:49 AM
 
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In many states the gaps actually are from people who normally would vote democratic being loss to republican candidates. For years now the number of people who describe themselfs as democrats and republicans has pretty well eqaulized . My guess is both parties are losing more and more straight party voters.
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Old 09-08-2010, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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The good part of this election cycle is that a great many number of progressives will be gone! The general shift will be much more heavily to the right. I think that Dems want to set up Reps for a failure by suggesting that anything less than X amount of seats is a failure. Nullifying Obama's calls for spending is a victory for all Americans, left and right. A big fat NO to the neo-Keynesian Church of Krugman economics. Basically, win-win.
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Old 09-08-2010, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Nate hasn't made a House forecast as of yet, but just like Sabato, he has the GOP close to taking the Senate. Right now, he has the odds at 1 in 4..

Republicans Have One-in-Four Chance to Claim Senate Majority, Model Shows - NYTimes.com

Again, in this position in Sept, with momentum going all your way, if you don't take the Senate, it should be looked upon as a major disappointment. I can guarantee you, that no matter what they may say publicly, GOP leaders feel the same way..

No, you can't guarantee that, since I doubt if you know any. If the GOP wins the Senate, that would be icing on the cake. A 25% shot at taking the senate is still long odds, although the odds have gotten better over the last couple of months.

See, the Left would like to push the narrative, that anything than both chambers flipping would be a GOP loss. But, we all KNOW that is just to deflect away from the losses in the House, which could be 60+ seats, an unprecedented number.

If that happens, we can give thanks to the radical policies of obama.

Besides, having the senate basically tied or the dems still holding the majority by one or two is just fine, they can still block his radical agenda, which is all I care about.
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Old 09-08-2010, 11:09 AM
 
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Hope & Change has turned to: Hoplessness & Change Back!
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Old 09-08-2010, 11:19 AM
 
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I can see the headlines on November 3rd:

Stunning defeat for Republicans as they only *just* take the house and senate!
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Old 09-08-2010, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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No, you can't guarantee that, since I doubt if you know any. If the GOP wins the Senate, that would be icing on the cake. A 25% shot at taking the senate is still long odds, although the odds have gotten better over the last couple of months.

See, the Left would like to push the narrative, that anything than both chambers flipping would be a GOP loss. But, we all KNOW that is just to deflect away from the losses in the House, which could be 60+ seats, an unprecedented number.

If that happens, we can give thanks to the radical policies of obama.

Besides, having the senate basically tied or the dems still holding the majority by one or two is just fine, they can still block his radical agenda, which is all I care about.
Yep, coupled with the fact that many blue dogs will likely retain office, it will mean the progressive movement is dead, which is a huge win for America.
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Old 09-08-2010, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Earth
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The good part of this election cycle is that a great many number of progressives will be gone!
Probably not. They tend to hold safe districts.

The Dems losing their seats will mostly be Blue Dogs and DLC.
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Old 09-08-2010, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Probably not. They tend to hold safe districts.
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The Dems losing their seats will mostly be Blue Dogs and DLC.
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