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The only way to know what is going on with your dog is to take him to a vet for a physical examination. The lump could be a tumor, but it could also be a cyst or a lipoma, or an infection, etc. Please take him to the vet.
Hello, my dogs nose has been bleeding and he has a large lump between his eyes. Please help!!!!
The only one that can help figure out what this is is the vet as it could be so many things and yes cancer is one of them. So please go see your vet if you have not done so already. Good luck.
Just learned my 11 yr old Border Collie springer spaniel mix may have nasal cancer, we are awaiting the biopsy results but after looking with a scope my vet is pretty certain this is the case.
I am interestind in hearing of anyone elses experiences with it and what treatment if any they sought as I would like to make the best decision for my dog as he has been such a great dog. I would like to have him around for as long as possible as he and my other dog are what got me through my mom's recent battle with cancer and her death but I know I don't want time if it comes at the expense of quality. Thanks.
I lost one of my adorable, loving Shelties "Pippi" to nasal cancer. She was 12 yrs old when it started. My vet gave us pain medication and she acted like her normal self until the last day when we had to put her down. It was a sad ending to a noble life.
Hey, I just want to talk to other people who know what this is like. I have talked to my husband, and he says I need to be easier on myself. My dog has a huge smelly tumor in her mouth. It's on the front and her bottom teeth are barely visible and basically rotted away. She eats in the back of her mouth and only soft foods. She is still happy and really energetic which is amazing for a nearly 16 year old dog. (16 in 10 days.) But my heart hurts to look at her. IT's a golf ball sized tumor in her mouth and it's turning black and white now. It bleeds off and on when she bumps into something. My car, my couch are covered in little spots of drool and blood since she can't close her mouth when she sleeps anymore. Her back legs are sore. I tired to massage them the other day, and pulled her back by her legs the other day, and she yelped. The legs don't have cancer. She's just an old lady. I know that if I put her down today, it would not be "too soon." She refused food twice last week. But ate an hour or so later.
She is not a cuddle bug, but has let me pull her into my lap a couple times and not run off. Seriously, I didn't know what to do because in the last 16 years she has never ever sat in my lap without leaving. She was sleepy and just stayed there for a few minutes.
Watching her slow down, watching her pain from time to time, seeing this effing tumor grow and get smelly and then watching her spring to action, jump and beg for food, stand on her hind legs to hug someone, try to climb on their desk(!!!). These are things that she's never done before. And then she goes to super slow mode. The main thing is I can tell if she's near me by the smell of the tumor. If that's MY sense of smell, what about hers? And I know it can't be comfortable, but damn if she isn't the peppiest 16 year old with a huge freaking tumor on her face. I don't know what to do.
I don't have the money and I don't want to remove her jaw, the vet said radiation wouldn't be good for a dog her age.
But if I put her down, it would be because it's so hard for ME to watch her go through this.
What do I do?
It is a difficult place to be made even more so because pets often do not show their pain. It will only continue to get worse so I think you have to consider that. Do you want to get to the point where you may be thinking you wish you had done it sooner?As quality of life is more important then quantity.
When Jazz was 14.5 her eye started to swell and my vet thought it was an eye tumor but the eye specialist said she felt it was the salivary gland and it was pushing the eye. It could have been an infection but due to her age was most likely a tumor and probably cancer. She was otherwise in great shape and still a very active dog and just a few months prior my vet had said if he had not known her since she was a puppy he would have thought she was 6 or 7 yrs old.
I decided to get an MRI done.While we were waiting for the results, one morning she got out of bed and headed downstairs and I heard a yelp then I heard the dog door flap and soon I heard the dog door again and she was back in the bedroom . She was acting normal but I noticed a clot of blood on her eye so called the vet and took her in to leave her until he had time to look at it. About an hour later he called me and said her eye had ruptured and self sealed . Usually when an eye ruptures the eye shrinks to nothing but hers had sealed and that was the clot. He said he had a call out to the MRI place to get the results and would call me back. When he called me back he said the MRI showed a solid mass in the salivary gland and I had to make a decision either he gets on the phone and finds a surgeon that can remove the eye, salivary gland and tumor so a large piece of her face that same day or I put her down. He said despite her not really showing pain a ruptured eye was very painful.
She was my once in a life time dog and I had lost Dash the previous year to the nasal cancer but surgery would be risky and she could die or develop serious complications . Even if all went well she would be in and ICU for few days and she hated vets and hated to be away from me so would not be happy so I just could not do that to her. As much as I did not want to loose her yet I knew what the right decision was so told the vet we would put her down but I wanted to come spend some time with her and take her on a last walk so he loaded her with pain meds and I came and walked her. She acted like herself and when we got back to the vets my car was right out front she she went up to it then argued with me when I told her we had to go back inside the vets .
It broke my heart but I knew the decision was the right one as the thought of her being in pain or doped up until she got so bad I could not bare to see her would have been so wrong. She was a fantastic dog that I loved more then any other dog so she deserved to die a painless death with some dignity and to do anything less would have meant prolonging her death not her life. Yes the decision hurt but I did not regret it as I know in my heart it was the right thing.
A few years prior I had a 9 yr old cat that developed a tumor on the base of her tongue and the vets told me she could live a while longer but to keep an eye on it as if I started to see black that meant the tissue was dead ( necrotic) meaning blood flow was not getting through and that would mean it was time to put her down.
As soon as I spotted some black I made her cat nip tea and gave her some and took a stoned but very happy purring cat to the vets and he gave her the injection as she purred away.When the purring stopped she was gone and it was so peaceful and beautiful. So I have walked down the cancer road with several animals.t is never easy but I have always known I did the right thing. Oddly enough they have all been cancers in the head region which does worry me some as it makes me think there is some environmental reason for it. Anyway I think you may already know what you should do.
My peace be with you as you make any decisions for your dog/ Many of us here have traveled down that path before so we do understand.
Hey, I just want to talk to other people who know what this is like. I have talked to my husband, and he says I need to be easier on myself. My dog has a huge smelly tumor in her mouth. It's on the front and her bottom teeth are barely visible and basically rotted away. She eats in the back of her mouth and only soft foods. She is still happy and really energetic which is amazing for a nearly 16 year old dog. (16 in 10 days.) But my heart hurts to look at her. IT's a golf ball sized tumor in her mouth and it's turning black and white now. It bleeds off and on when she bumps into something. My car, my couch are covered in little spots of drool and blood since she can't close her mouth when she sleeps anymore. Her back legs are sore. I tired to massage them the other day, and pulled her back by her legs the other day, and she yelped. The legs don't have cancer. She's just an old lady. I know that if I put her down today, it would not be "too soon." She refused food twice last week. But ate an hour or so later.
She is not a cuddle bug, but has let me pull her into my lap a couple times and not run off. Seriously, I didn't know what to do because in the last 16 years she has never ever sat in my lap without leaving. She was sleepy and just stayed there for a few minutes.
Watching her slow down, watching her pain from time to time, seeing this effing tumor grow and get smelly and then watching her spring to action, jump and beg for food, stand on her hind legs to hug someone, try to climb on their desk(!!!). These are things that she's never done before. And then she goes to super slow mode. The main thing is I can tell if she's near me by the smell of the tumor. If that's MY sense of smell, what about hers? And I know it can't be comfortable, but damn if she isn't the peppiest 16 year old with a huge freaking tumor on her face. I don't know what to do.
I don't have the money and I don't want to remove her jaw, the vet said radiation wouldn't be good for a dog her age.
But if I put her down, it would be because it's so hard for ME to watch her go through this.
What do I do?
I am so sorry you are in this position. It sucks. Many of us have been in similar circumstances. It sucks.
All I can say is that IME it's better to say goodbye too soon than too late. You may think she's not in pain but dogs are very adept at hiding their pain. And living with a big lump of decaying tissue in her mouth cannot be fun.
If this were my beloved partner and even if I had the money I would not do surgery nor radiation. I would spend a few enjoyable days with my precious doing things she loves...sleeping or cuddling or eating or huging (whatever)...and then say good bye with a big smile on my face and while giving her the most yummy soft treats. At the vet if she loves going or at home if she dislikes going to the vet. Waiting until she shows you she is in pain is no good for her and it's no good for you.
We kind of backed into nose cancer ( we had reverse sneezing, sneezing, eye dribble) but vet and I chalked it up to allergies. My 6 year old aussie/bc mix started reverse sneezing a few months ago but the eye dribble started in Sept. We all blew it off - - Charlotte had BAD allergy counts - - and then Micki went blind in both eyes. We had a dx of SARDS with a caution it may be nose cancer (adenocarcinoma) because she had a blood tinged discharge out of one nostril when she was muzzled and showed that symptom. Put on antibiotocs to rule out infection - - a week later huge nosebleed. Made appt next day and she had an "absense seizure" the morning of the vet appt. The quad of nosebleed, blind, seizure and the one nostril blood tinged discharge made my vet (well, both vets) say it was nose cancer. And advanced, into the brain as Micki's eyesight was gone. Nothing to do, no treatment, no cure. I am heartbroken and what to spare her pain and further loss of quality of life. Micki has adapted well to not having sight but I don't want her to have the tumor breaking through into her palate or busting out of her muzzle into a swelling. This is SO fast - - but I want to put her down before her life is pain, and I am having a hard time straddling the line between she is still Micki and happy and this needs to stop BEFORE it becomes too much.
It has only been two weeks since vet said 95% sure of dx -- and I listen to her gag and choke and I think I should pay MORE attention to those sounds than think about her wagging her tailo as she takes her walks with me.
I sure hope someone still answers this very old list post.
I lost Dash to nasal cancer but we found his early and palliative IMRT radiation bought him some good quality time.I think curing it even when caught early is very rare
My other dog I had at the same time as Dash is more similar to what you are dealing with. Jazz who was a border collie X cattle dog was 14.5 yrs old .When she turned 14 we went to the vet for a senior check up all was well, senior lab panel normal.Vet said to me if I had not known Jazz since she was a puppy and you came in I would think she was 6 or 7 yrs as she is in great shape.I left happy thinking she may be with me a few more years.
Four months later her left eye looked swollen so I took her to the vet. Because of her age he thought she might have a tumor behind her eye.I ended up taking her to an eye specialist who felt it was a tumor or maybe just a blockage in a salivary gland and it was causing the eye to push out.She said if it is a blocked gland it can be drained, if it is a tumor the outlook is not as good.She suggested an MRI if I wanted to know which it probably was.
Took several weeks and a trip of about 130 miles each way but we got an MRI then waited for results. Two days later she jumped off my bed in the morning and as she headed down stairs to go outside, I heard her yelp but then I heard her go out the pet door come back in and up the stairs.When I looked at her she had a blood clot on her eye.
Called the vet who was booked but told me to drop her off and he would look at her when he had a few minutes.Couple hrs later he called and said her eye had ruptured and normally ever thing spills out and the eye shrinks to nothing but hers self sealed instantly but it is a very painful thing so he called the place that did the MRI and told them he needed tne rresults now.He then called me and said the MRI showed a solid mass thus a tumor so I had to make a decision right then. I either needed to put her down or he gets on the phone to find someone that can do that type of surgery that day,it would reguie removing the salivary gland and the eye and quite a bit of that side of her face. It would be a big surgery and she would be in a ICU for a few diays
if she survived it.
She was my once in a life time dog that hated being away from me and hated vets so I knew that at 14.5 I could not ask her to go through that.So I made that very tough decision to put her down but told the vet I wanted to take her on a last walk to say good bye.He loaded her up on pain meds and I took her on a walk.We got back and my car was right in front of the vets so she pulled towards it and when I said no we have to go back inside the vets she stood there arguing with me..which she often did.
It broke my heart,she was not ready but due to the pain I could not bare to see her suffer or wander around d a few days drugged up.I did not want too say good bye but it would have been selfish not to.She could not make it easy as she fought the drugs they gave her to sedate her before the actual ejection, she just did not trust the vet ,he was up to no good in her mind.Finally the drugs kicked I and I held her head and talked to her as she left me.
Broke my heart more then any other time I have had to say good bye as the others had been ready and I had more time to make the decision. I knew in my heart that it was the right thing to do and the right time to do it. Making her suffer one more day would have been harder .
The decision breaks your heart but you have to do what is best for them.I think if they could they would thank you for putting them first.It seems more people regret not doing it sooner rather then feeling they did it too soon.
I remember Dash having nights where he could not sleep due to nasal infections after his IMRT as we had 3 wildfires that caused issues for him and it was so hard seeing him restless and sounding all congested,the only thing that got me through those nights was knowing it was the fires and not the cancer at that point.
I hope the stories of my experience helps you .Dogs can be very stoic which makes it difficult to gage the pain they are in.I will be sending prayers that you can decide what is best for your dog even if it means breaking your own heart.Give your dog a special treat where you spoil him rotten as it wii give you a happy memory during this sad time.Dash and I shared lunch where he got a burger and fries and shared my chocolate shake as we sat looking at the ocean.He thought he had died and gone to heaven already as I never let him eat that stuff and he loved to eat.So when I think of the end with him I think of that lunch and his happy grin. It makes me smile.
Good luck and feel free to tell stories of your dog as it really does help heal the pain .
I have been spoiling Micki since the dx - - why not, right? What is it going to do - - kill her? I am just afraid her gagging means the tumor is moving further toward her throat (not a constant gag - - sometimes she breathes fairly normally/quietly).
She still loves going outside, eating, drinks water, barks at the other dogs, asks for attention. This is SO HARD - - I want to straddle the line between letting her go before it gets MUCH WORSE and letting her live another day.
For the record, since being on the Yunnan Baiyao her bloody discharge and nosebleeds have ceased (seems to help). It doesn't CURE but it mitigates the scary bleeding stuff.
I am still stunned my young dog has this awful fatal cancer
(Thank you, Dashdog, for replying - - I guess I just need to hear it is okay to let her go now rather than wait for her to lose her legs, have a muzzle swelling, get a mouth punch through, etc)...
Seaboard, my vet who I respect very much told me,today might not be the day, tomorrow might not be it either but from this day forward there will be no wrong day .I think you will know in your heart when the time is right until then continue to love and spoil your dog.
Having lost dogs and family members to cancer,while very sad and at times it can be ugly too I have learned to view cancer as sort of a calling card saying the end is near.The cancer has given me a chance to say good bye.I think sudden unexpected deaths can be tougher on those left behind as you do not get to say good bye and you often are left wondering what was the last thing I said to them?
My 20 yr old niece died suddenly in a car accident and there was that awfulness of not having a chance to say goodbye.My sister just recently lost one of her dogs. They had just had fun at the dog park jumped back in the car and as she was putting on her seat belt the one dog yelped several times so my sister got back out opened the hatch and the dog was unresponsive .She rushed to the vets but it was too late. They vet did a quick look with his ultrasound and there was free blood around her heart so he thinks she had either a tumor or an aneurysm near the heart that burst causing her to bleed out..it may sound strange but I will take the cancer over that. It gave me time to make peace with the deaths before they occurred.
I even found the positive in Dash's cancer and that was starting this thread,as I met some fantastic people because of it.Several are now friends on face book and one man made a little sculpture of Dash and sent it to me so very thoughtful and it remains priceless to me The best was one of the people I met on this thread that became a facebook friend,helped me get one of my current dogs when she was a puppy.
I did not want a puppy but someone shared one in a high kill shelter in Texas with me (I am in California ) and I knew the minute I saw it that that was my dog .They did allow out of state adoptions but I had to have her out by a certain time.The friend from here lived near the shelter in Texas and was willing to go pick up the puppy and take her to her vets to board until I could fly there to get her almost a week later.I got to meet her too which was an extra bonus as she is a wonderful person so as sad as cancer is some positive things can be found too.
I am sorry you are going through this especially with such a young dog but know you are not alone .As you can see by the number of pages on this thread many have walked this walk with nasal cancer and a beloved dog.Hang in there and trust your heart .Give your pooch a big hug from me being an aussie X BC mix she is my kind of dog.
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My pup and oral Cancer
So sad
