Give me a reason to stay here!

[McGowdog]

Originally Posted by tew

Im with steve on this. If you dont like it here, move.

Jjaccobeclark? He already DID move. But he's with us here in spirit.

ddds: More paragraphs please. But I agree with ya and relate to that. I'm not a millionaire either, I'm hardly a thousandaire right now... but I've enjoyed my travels and am content watching Over the Pond on my HD TV.

I went to Seattle to pick up a car, but I flew in at night and drove it right back home. So I kind of missed it.

Good thing the car was actually from Yakima and not the NW coast, right?











Add: Oh! Which leads me to why the pics! No Rust!

Originally Posted by stheineken

So what about the schools? My son is still really young but it would be good to know. Are the daycares out there really expensive? We would really love the change of weather. And how bout the industries. Are the stores and restuarants chain/franchise or no namers?

Please use the search function and anything with a "Vegaspilgrim" and "Mexican Food" is a safe bet. I think he found one in the Denver Metro.

If you want good mom and pops, you'll find them scattered about. Look up Livecontent's posts... because I think he's a gourmet cook, or a gourmet eater, or something. You know, after looking through the advanced search feature, look up the Index stickys in the beginning of the Denver section for some of the school and daycare and industry stuff; besides what's on here.

And even FOOD and MOMs! It's all right here!

[stheineken]

So what about the schools? My son is still really young but it would be good to know. Are the daycares out there really expensive? We would really love the change of weather. And how bout the industries. Are the stores and restuarants chain/franchise or no namers?

[treedonkey]

Originally Posted by the3Ds

Perhaps, but I find it interesting that you only listed foreign cities on your list. I've been to London numerous times and while it's great to visit, the cost of living is astronomical, their "districts" are far more racist than any other place I've visited and the people there still make class differentiations based on how "posh" your accent is. That's not to say it's not great, but hardly a place I would live. Same for Paris...my God...have you been there lately? The tourist part of the city is still beautiful, but it's like a stage with the ghettos (which are very poor and very dangerous) in the background. Rome and Milan...wonderful, wonderful, wonderful. I got to live in Florence for a year in college and fell in love with Italy. That being said, Italy would be a third world country if it weren't for the leather. I love the Italians but they are absolutely unwilling to work a traditional workday and everything is on "Italian time". This means that the trains are rarely on time (unless they are coming from somewhere else), the gypsies accost anyone who's not paying attention, and the transportation industry goes on total strike whenever they fancy. I cannot tell you how many times I have had to stand in the aisle on a 4 hour train ride because that was the only train going. However, that's the charm of Italy...imagine if everyone was anally punctual there? What fun would that be? Zurich...nice but just like any other big city. What's the appeal? Because it's old? Frankfurt and Munich? Munich takes Frankfurt as far as a pretty, unique city as Frankfurt is merely industrial and filled with skyscrapers. But the Germans? I'm sorry to lump them all together but after living there during the 9-11 attack and hearing from Germans over and over again, "Well, this wouldn't have happened if your policies towards Israel were different." WHAT?!?!?! Other than the token Holocaust museums and cemeteries, they have still not come to terms with their part in the Holocaust and continue to say things like, "Well, no one knew what Hitler was doing." I find that interesting as my neighbors knew everything about me even though I couldn't have told you their names. When you go to a restaurant on a regular basis, you get to sit at a specific table. They are very nosy and to pretend that people didn't know what was going on or never noticed what was happening to the Jews in their cities in totally ridiculous. There are some very nice German people that I met and still consider them friends, but that country is in complete denial and continue to have feelings that they are the superior country in all of the EU, which is what got them into trouble in the first place. As far as the huge cities in Asia...I haven't traveled there as extensively as I would like. I have been to Singapore and thought I was going to have a heart attack. I am not claustrophobic but the amount of people there and the amount of noise, traffic, flashing lights and the incredible heat and humidity almost did me in. Plus, have you seen the tiny homes that people live in? I don't need a huge house, but the wonderful people I met there brought me to their house and showed me into their living space. They roll up their beds when nighttime is over because there is no such things as separate bedrooms. Living room, dining room and bedrooms are the same space. They don't think anything of it and their apartment was inside of a building that was busting at the seams.

Again, my only point in mentioning the above is that there are problems with every city in the world. Some people overlook them because they love the majority of what the city has to offer. In my opinion, there is not a city more beautiful than Seattle. When the sun is shining and you can see Mt Rainier and the Cascades, the reflection off Lake Washington and Puget Sound is incomparable. Would I live there? Nope. Too expensive and while beautiful when sunny, those days are few and far between. I grew up there but now that I go back to visit, all I want to do is stay in bed. It's gloomy and totally depressing in the winter. My parents will never leave and think nothing of the fact that they never see the sun...only a ball of light trying to shine through the clouds. Yuk.

If he wants to think that Denver is the best city in the world, who are you or I to disagree? Everyone has to find their own part of paradise. Mine is Sanibel Island, FL. I would move there in a heartbeat if I won the lottery. Since I am not a millionaire, I enjoy the place I am in the moment. I've been fortunate to be a world traveler and while I love to travel and see the world and meet new people and experience new culture, I am always happy to fill out the US Customs paperwork and get in the line that says US Passport Holders Only.

eek - ever hear of concise statements or white space? What was your point there? I only got through the first sentence or so.

[the3Ds]

Originally Posted by treedonkey

eek - ever hear of concise statements or white space? What was your point there? I only got through the first sentence or so.

Sorry...I get on this forum when my newborn is napping and I like to feel like I'm having an adult conversation. My apologies...after reading books with words like "eye" "ear" "nose" "apple", etc, it's nice to run a sentence together. Try not to hold it against me...just trying to prove a point (and let out some phrases that have been sitting in my head)!

All of that drivel and my point is still just this...there is good and bad no matter where you live. Some think that Denver is paradise and who cares if they do? I've been to most of the places that were listed as "better than Denver" and I couldn't disagree more. Whew. That took a lot less space.

[Ellwood]

Originally Posted by HighlandsRanchUrbanite

Denver is the greatest city in the world! It is super diverse. Here in highlands ranch I know a asian family. I saw some indians too on the 16th street mall! You just have to open your eyes more. Denver is by far the greatest city in the world. We are not all run down and dumpy like east coast cities. we are new and clean! Places like Highlands Ranch are the newest and most awesome city neighborhoods. Whats wrong with chains? they are more efficient, clean, and cheaper than stupid ma and pop stores. There is a reason nobody likes eating cockroach soup at some diner owned by ma and pa. No thanks! If you like the 3rd world go back and live in New York.

I'm not sure what your basis for comparison is to name Denver the greatest city in the world. It is nice, but there are a lot of "nice" cities. Your negative comments about NY one has to assume you are speaking of NYC. Had you ever traveled to upstate NY, it is an entirely different world. There are beautiful, clean, small homey and friendly towns in upstate NY. NYC is a great city. It is diversified and if you really "know the city" there are fantastic restaurants, people from all over the world, museums and art, Broadway entertainment that you will not find in places like Denver. I have been to Denver and although very nice, it certainly isn't a WOW city for me.

[DenverAztec]

Sweet Car McGowdog!

[Count David]

Originally Posted by stheineken

So what about the schools? My son is still really young but it would be good to know. Are the daycares out there really expensive? We would really love the change of weather. And how bout the industries. Are the stores and restuarants chain/franchise or no namers?

Have you never left Phoenix?

Please, do yourself a favor and take a trip out here.

[extexanwannabe]

I moved to Arvada in 1994, and I was a little leery at first. After a few days, my wife and I both agreed that we were shocked at the general friendliness where ever we went. We loved it! For the first time in our lives, we got to see the seasons change. We moved from south Texas where it rarely freezes, forget about trees that turn color in the fall down there! Very short summers, a real springtime...Arizona! I lived there...hot, hot hot. Oklahoma, Nebraska, Texas...none have impressed my like Denver metro. Sure, I-25 is a pain; I found ways around that. I love it! If nothing else, Denver's weather, MOST of the time, is what kept me here.