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Old 10-10-2019, 12:08 PM
 
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From reading all those Harry Potter books, isn't a Bezos Stone taken from a goat's stomach and used as an antidote to poisons?


I guess there are enough lower housing cost places around Hartford where you can be middle class with a warehouse picker job. Not exactly the kind of jobs that drive the local economy.
It depends on where they need warehouses and where warehouses are available. They are opening one in North Andover, MA. where the Lucent facility sits now. 1500 jobs are expected and I'm sure it'll draw from Lowell, Lawrence, Nashua, et al.

 
Old 10-10-2019, 12:18 PM
 
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42K a year isn't half the story.

When I took the Exams in the late 1970's , the package even then was quite good compared to private sector positions and even local Police .
Don't forget you get a car 24/7 to use, even to drive your family around. Overtime is plentiful. And the retirement package is outstanding. Work 20 -25 years, retire before you are 50 and get another Police position in one of the Ct Towns for even more income.
So, to clarify re: plentiful overtime, you’re advocating that a trooper work 50-60 hours a week to get paid well. Then after advocating that, you’re questioning why they only work 25 years before retirement? Think about it logically: working 50-60 hours per week (which is about average for law enforcement), in extreme high stress situations throughout those 50-60 hours, on off shifts, and we have the audacity to say they have it “quite good” because they can retire in 25 years with 50% of their salary? That’s not outstanding to me.

Re take home car, the majority of CSP troopers I know purposely don’t use their car off duty. There is required gear you must keep with you and there’s the likelihood that if you’re close to a call for service, or stumble upon something, you’re stuck working. But hey - it’s overtime, right? They have it so good!

You also forget that troopers had a freeze in pay for years due to the tough economy. They deserve every penny of that raise.
 
Old 10-10-2019, 12:22 PM
 
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So, to clarify re: plentiful overtime, you’re advocating that a trooper work 50-60 hours a week to get paid well. Then after advocating that, you’re questioning why they only work 25 years before retirement? Think about it logically: working 50-60 hours per week (which is about average for law enforcement), in extreme high stress situations throughout those 50-60 hours, on off shifts, and we have the audacity to say they have it “quite good” because they can retire in 25 years with 50% of their salary? That’s not outstanding to me.

Re take home car, the majority of CSP troopers I know purposely don’t use their car off duty. There is required gear you much keep with you and there’s the likelihood that if you’re close to a call for service, or stumble upon something, you’re stuck working. But hey - it’s overtime, right? They have it so good!

You also forget that troopers had a freeze in pay for years due to the tough economy. They deserve every penny of that raise.
First responders (of any nature) and teachers don't get paid enough in my book for the what they have to deal with. Their pensions and unions are fine with me.
I'm not shedding any tears for the upset Tea Party fellas on here.
 
Old 10-10-2019, 12:34 PM
 
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I didn't " advocate " anything. Overt time is there for the taking, as well as advancement and higher pay.

I didn't " question" anything. I said it was " outstanding" . That's my opinion based on facts and experience.

I said when I took the exams back in the late 1970's , the package was " quite good". And it was.

People aren't drafted to take the job. They apply. When I went though the process it was quote lengthy , and vigorous , for good reason.

I never said they didn't deserve the raise.
You said the package is good now. Maybe for the 70’s at the time, it was good. Today, they’re fighting for contractual raises, to keep their pensions, to keep their cars, healthcare cost to troopers has risen 400% between 2011 and today. While it’s better than some states, it’s far from “outstanding”.

Opinion based on what experience? Going through the hiring process? Sorry - if you’ve never received a check or worked a day in a trooper’s shoes, you’re not allowed to claim experience based off of what you read on paper.

I’m with Steve that first responders and teachers aren’t paid nearly enough. Give them their raises. Anyone screaming to the contrary, like the author to that article posted, needs to sit down.
 
Old 10-10-2019, 12:46 PM
 
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Which state pays their state troopers the most?
The national average wage for a police officer in the United States, according to the most recent data released by the BLS, is $29.45 per hour, or a salary of $61,270 per year.
...
Here are the highest-paying states for police officers.
Oregon. ...
Connecticut. ...
New York. ...
Illinois. ...
Nevada. ...
Washington, D.C. ...
Washington. ...
Alaska.
 
Old 10-10-2019, 12:54 PM
 
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State Hourly Wage Annual Salary
New York - State Trooper Salary
$27.05 $56,262
Massachusetts - State Trooper Salary
$26.86 $55,863
New Hampshire - State Trooper Salary
$26.39 $54,897
Maryland - State Trooper Salary
$25.39 $52,819
Nebraska - State Trooper Salary
$24.93 $51,861
Hawaii - State Trooper Salary
$24.85 $51,696
Vermont - State Trooper Salary
$24.80 $51,584
Washington - State Trooper Salary
$24.76 $51,510
California - State Trooper Salary
$24.76 $51,504
North Dakota - State Trooper Salary
$24.72 $51,413
Nevada - State Trooper Salary
$24.72 $51,413
Alaska - State Trooper Salary
$24.72 $51,413
Wyoming - State Trooper Salary
$24.72 $51,413
Montana - State Trooper Salary
$24.72 $51,413
Idaho - State Trooper Salary
$24.72 $51,413
Connecticut - State Trooper Salary
$24.65 $51,275
Virginia - State Trooper Salary
$24.18 $50,291
Delaware - State Trooper Salary
$23.74 $49,379
West Virginia - State Trooper Salary
$23.71 $49,319
Arizona - State Trooper Salary
$23.60 $49,080
Rhode Island - State Trooper Salary
$23.52 $48,917
Minnesota - State Trooper Salary
$23.51 $48,906
Pennsylvania - State Trooper Salary
$23.47 $48,822
New Jersey - State Trooper Salary
$23.44 $48,752
Colorado - State Trooper Salary
$23.44 $48,750
South Dakota - State Trooper Salary
$23.43 $48,738
Oregon - State Trooper Salary
$23.36 $48,595
South Carolina - State Trooper Salary
$23.33 $48,520
Tennessee - State Trooper Salary
$23.20 $48,259
Ohio - State Trooper Salary
$22.95 $47,735
Indiana - State Trooper Salary
$22.94 $47,707
Kentucky - State Trooper Salary
$22.90 $47,642
Louisiana - State Trooper Salary
$22.88 $47,600
Iowa - State Trooper Salary
$22.85 $47,534
Oklahoma - State Trooper Salary
$22.85 $47,521
Utah - State Trooper Salary
$22.83 $47,495
Wisconsin - State Trooper Salary
$22.59 $46,978
Kansas - State Trooper Salary
$22.51 $46,813
Alabama - State Trooper Salary
$22.30 $46,380
Arkansas - State Trooper Salary
$22.30 $46,374
Maine - State Trooper Salary
$22.21 $46,188
Texas - State Trooper Salary
$22.09 $45,955
Georgia - State Trooper Salary
$22.09 $45,951
New Mexico - State Trooper Salary
$21.95 $45,650
Illinois - State Trooper Salary
$21.66 $45,050
Michigan - State Trooper Salary
$21.53 $44,778
Missouri - State Trooper Salary
$21.22 $44,137
Mississippi - State Trooper Salary
$21.05 $43,777
Florida - State Trooper Salary
$20.75 $43,167
North Carolina - State Trooper Salary
$19.18 $39,899
 
Old 10-10-2019, 12:59 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Fuele View Post
Which state pays their state troopers the most?
The national average wage for a police officer in the United States, according to the most recent data released by the BLS, is $29.45 per hour, or a salary of $61,270 per year.
...
Here are the highest-paying states for police officers.
Oregon. ...
Connecticut. ...
New York. ...
Illinois. ...
Nevada. ...
Washington, D.C. ...
Washington. ...
Alaska.
...and those highest paid also have amongst the highest costs of living, including tax burden. You just showed me that CT troopers have the same starting salary as troopers in Idaho - lol. Your list is a moot point after all the numbers have been discussed in previous posts.

If your argument is that a starting salary of ~45k is “outstanding”, then we need to agree to disagree on what is a good salary in 2019 (not 1970 when you tried to get on the force).

I’m very fiscally conservative and what the left is doing to the state is bordering on horrific, but if the tea party-like republicans had their way, teachers would still be making 20k a year and troopers wouldn’t have had a raise since 1970.
 
Old 10-10-2019, 01:26 PM
 
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Excellent article written by the author who happens to be a native of CT.
Except that much of it is misleading. If what the article says is true then why does Connecticut have a lower unemployment rate than North Carolina? Why is ours the same as Georgia? Why do progressive states like Massachusetts have much lower unemployment rates as well? Why are we No. 3 for Real Gross Domestic Product and No. 1 for Real Disposable Income? Sorry but the facts show this opinion piece is wrong. Jay
 
Old 10-10-2019, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Connecticut
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Originally Posted by Fuele View Post
42K a year isn't half the story.

When I took the Exams in the late 1970's , the package even then was quite good compared to private sector positions and even local Police .
Don't forget you get a car 24/7 to use, even to drive your family around. Overtime is plentiful. And the retirement package is outstanding. Work 20 -25 years, retire before you are 50 and get another Police position in one of the Ct Towns for even more income.



If you're think police have such a great job and pay you should join. You;ll find out soon enough its not all unicorns, rainbows, and caviar.


As a side note, high police salaries or at least above average police salaries are used as a deterrent to corruption.
 
Old 10-10-2019, 01:55 PM
 
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Except that much of it is misleading. If what the article says is true then why does Connecticut have a lower unemployment rate than North Carolina? Why is ours the same as Georgia? Why do progressive states like Massachusetts have much lower unemployment rates as well? Why are we No. 3 for Real Gross Domestic Product and No. 1 for Real Disposable Income? Sorry but the facts show this opinion piece is wrong. Jay
There are definitely strong points to be made regarding the economic issues in the state, but if we allowed the extreme right wing to rule, teachers/police officers wouldn’t see raises, there would be zero union protection and pension obligations, which were promised for decades, would be stripped. That’s only the start. Shame on them for criticizing contractual raises for first responders when they experienced many years without one. That’s not how you save money.

...that’s not to say the left wing is any better. We need moderation.
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