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Um... yeah. College grads are having a hard time finding work because there is a small manufacturing base? Hmmm... Most college grads I know would not even CONSIDER a manufacturing job.
College grads are having a hard time finding work because there are too many college grads, period. This is what happens when the manufacturing base is destroyed. Too many people in college that feel like they "need" to be there. Many people that would take gainful employment in manufacturing occupations suddenly have to go to college to compete with all the others that go to college for fewer and fewer jobs.
If manufacturing returned to the US in abundance, I promise you college enrollment would drop across the nation.
The main reason college costs keep going up is because every year more and more students are attending college. Throw in government aid, colleges now have a product which has a HUGE demand so they keep jacking the costs up.
Most of the "cost" is for administration salaries and other perks they receive. Colleges now look more and more like resorts than colleges of the 70s, 80s, and 90s.
UH has a loft which rival those in downtown Houston which is sad because it is barely used and next to an ugly looking warehouse that takes up space while students circle around the parking lot for hours trying to find parking.
They can't find jobs because at EVERY occupation you can find someone to do it for cheaper in another country. What are considered the good paying jobs in america? Scientists, programmers, and engineers.
You can find all of the above for 1/5th the american cost in 3rd world countries. They are just as competent as any american.
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The main reason college costs keep going up is because every year more and more students are attending college. Throw in government aid, colleges now have a product which has a HUGE demand so they keep jacking the costs up.
Most of the "cost" is for administration salaries and other perks they receive. Colleges now look more and more like resorts than colleges of the 70s, 80s, and 90s.
UH has a loft which rival those in downtown Houston which is sad because it is barely used and next to an ugly looking warehouse that takes up space while students circle around the parking lot for hours trying to find parking.
Government is the only entity where more people showing up is a bad thing. If it were a corporation they would just hire more staff to handle the demand.
Plus lets face it. We have technology now where everyone can get a high quality college education for a fraction of the cost. However, colleges don't adopt this technology because they know it would desimate their industry. Just imagine if we had MIT OCW for every class that was taught at MIT?
They can't find jobs because at EVERY occupation you can find someone to do it for cheaper in another country. What are considered the good paying jobs in America? Scientists, programmers, and engineers.
You can find all of the above for 1/5th the American cost in 3rd world countries. They are just as competent as any American.
Government is the only entity where more people showing up is a bad thing. If it were a corporation they would just hire more staff to handle the demand.
Plus lets face it. We have technology now where everyone can get a high quality college education for a fraction of the cost. However, colleges don't adopt this technology because they know it would decimate their industry. Just imagine if we had MIT OCW for every class that was taught at MIT?
I agree that education should be accessible for anyone and everyone who desires it, HOWEVER, a college education with a bachelor's degree should ONLY be for students who are mature enough to handle the responsibility.
Ph.Ds are respected because fewer people have them. Bachelor's degrees are not as valuable as they were, say a decade or so ago, because the more people you have who get the degree, the less valuable it becomes.
Our government needs to do something about illegals attending schools here and only having to pay in-state tuition (Texas for example). Also, with so many foreign students on our campuses, colleges need to focus more on getting students from America rather than India or China.
After all, aren't public schools supported by the taxpayer? If so, if I can't get into UT Austin, fine, but don't tell me someone from India or an illegal immigrant was accepted over a legal resident Texas applicant!
This should not be and wouldn't be if the rich hadn't exported all of America's manufacturing base out of the country in the rush to Globalization for Profit. ...
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The root cause is the US Tax Code. The USA is virtually alone among developed nations in taxing foreign profits when they are repatriated back to the home country (USA). Because of this, American corporations don't repatriate foreign profits. Contrast this with, say, German or UK or French or Japanese or Israeli or even Indian or Chinese or Brazilian corporations; when they repatriate profits to their home countries, those home countries do not tax the foreign profits (after all, they have already been taxed once in the foreign jurisdictions).
So why does the US have this perverse idea? Follow the money. Who benefits when US corporations keep foreign earnings in foreign countries? Well, those foreign countries do (e.g. China). Foreign sovereign nations employ lobbyists to keep this immoral 2nd taxation in place. Even though it is illegal to do so, the sovereign nation of the People's Republic of China (Communist China) repeatedly has been caught funneling campaign contributions to US Senators who are sympathetic to their cause. US Senators Feinstein, Boxer, Schumer & Levin have all public returned campaign contributions that were discovered to have their source in the China.
Feinstein, Boxer, Schumer & Levin are all very powerful US Senators belonging to the Democratic Party.
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Spending a lot of time and money just to get the education they want is really costing a lot of Americans. Most of us don't like what is going on, but it seems like we do not have a choice. A lot of people still value education that is why they will do anything just to get one even if it means that they will get student loan. http://privatestudentloan.org/
And here are the reasons grads are not finding jobs:
#5 The typical U.S. college student spends less than 30 hours a week on academics.
#7 Today, college students spend approximately 50% less time studying than U.S. college students did just a few decades ago.
#8 35% of U.S. college students spend 5 hours or less studying per week.
#9 50% of U.S. college students have never taken a class where they had to write more than 20 pages.
#10 32% of U.S. college students have never taken a class where they had to read more than 40 pages in a week.
#11 U.S. college students spend 24% of their time sleeping, 51% of their time socializing and 7% of their time studying.
It seems like students are simply lazier today than they used to be. The debt isn't the problem, not learning what you need in order to get a decent paying job is.
35% of students spend less than 5 hours per week studying, and they wonder why they can't find a job...
I left some comments at the original site....but I'll also discuss some issues here.
Student loans and debt is a problem....and it grabs people's attention when you bring it up. But it is glossing right past two larger issues: #1-The exploding cost of college tuition and #2 - the 'dumbing down' of college on all levels.
In regards to the first issue, I work at a university and still, I fail to see any justification for the incessant hikes in tuition. Every year, like clockwork, the tuition rates go up. Yet what is the justification for these increases....no one knows! I know that my pay doesn't go up. But hey, I am not an administrator. In my program, we have not be given extra money to upgrade our education resources (for a full revamping) in about 6 years. Sure, the textbooks are updated....but our curriculum has stagnated because we haven't been granted the money to have a professional advisory board come in and help with the curriculum proposals. Oh and our online system is missing key modules that could help improve the educational delivery in our online classes. Ugh...I could go on and on really!
In regards to the second issue, there are too many people in college who really shouldn't be there. The end result is that the clout of a college degree has been lessened...considerably. I have friends who are college professors and they say that even in the last 5 years...the quality of students...especially in regards to writing abilities and math abilities has plummeted. So I don't know what in the hell happened to 'No Child Left Behind'. If anything they are getting pushed through....unable to think critically and communicate effectively.
So basically if college costs were lower, than student loan debt burdens would be lower. Also, if college graduates were able to easily secure good paying jobs, then student loan debt would not bother anyone (because who flinches at paying $250K for their house...or $30K for 'a' car...and most homes have 2)? If you make $75-$100K a year, than it's really no sweat to deal with.
The problem is, we have a completely warped view of higher education. It no longer is a badge of knowledge and competence; it just shows that you had the means and/or committment to spend a lot of money on something that makes you look good.
And here are the reasons grads are not finding jobs:
#5 The typical U.S. college student spends less than 30 hours a week on academics.
#7 Today, college students spend approximately 50% less time studying than U.S. college students did just a few decades ago.
#8 35% of U.S. college students spend 5 hours or less studying per week.
#9 50% of U.S. college students have never taken a class where they had to write more than 20 pages.
#10 32% of U.S. college students have never taken a class where they had to read more than 40 pages in a week.
#11 U.S. college students spend 24% of their time sleeping, 51% of their time socializing and 7% of their time studying.
It seems like students are simply lazier today than they used to be. The debt isn't the problem, not learning what you need in order to get a decent paying job is.
35% of students spend less than 5 hours per week studying, and they wonder why they can't find a job...
Don't forget all the for profit degrees are out there and the public schools that let anyone in.
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