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Old 06-02-2010, 10:16 PM
 
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^are those single family homes in the actual city or in the metro?
To a NYer the city means Manhatten.

Part of NYC's success is because of its orginal self contained metropolitan structure(the metropolitan division system aka the borough system), which was way ahead of its time and is still a model for metro planning across the world.
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Old 06-02-2010, 10:17 PM
 
Location: The Bay
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All of those pictures were taken in the actual city of New York.

Wouldn't have known that.


I'm just curious though... what consistently makes poor neighborhoods on the west coast seem inviting compared to the equivalent neighborhoods on the east coast to east coasters?
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Old 06-02-2010, 10:18 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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^are those single family homes in the actual city or in the metro?
The outer boroughs have tons of areas with rather large single-family homes. Many of my relatives live in this area called Jamaica Estates over by JFK-the area reminds me of the Lakeshore Area of Oakland, how spaced out the houses are, and how there is somewhat of a yard. Yes, trees and all.

I almost bought a house in a part of Queens called Bayside which has some really HUGE homes on large lots. But then decided on NJ instead.

Oh yes, NYC is really BIG and goes far beyond Manhattan. The image we get outside of NYC is almost exclusively Manhattan but I must say, NYC is incredibly diverse in every sense of the word. I mean, Staten Island for example, feels like a different place altogether, but no, its part of NYC too. I go on drives around the City just checking things out-especially on sunday evenings...I love it.

As a relative newbie, Im still figuring things out.
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Old 06-02-2010, 10:28 PM
 
Location: Jersey Boy living in Florida
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Heres something thats going to blow Nineties Flava's mind lol:

http://www.precon-logstrat.com/PCLS/images/vancortlandt.JPG (broken link)
http://www.precon-logstrat.com/PCLS/images/vancortlandt.JPG (broken link)

"The Van Cortlandt House Museum, also known as Frederick Van Cortlandt House or Van Cortlandt House, is the oldest building in The Bronx, New York City." - Wikipedia
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Old 06-02-2010, 10:33 PM
 
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The outer boroughs have tons of areas with rather large single-family homes. Many of my relatives live in this area called Jamaica Estates over by JFK-the area reminds me of the Lakeshore Area of Oakland, how spaced out the houses are, and how there is somewhat of a yard. Yes, trees and all.

I almost bought a house in a part of Queens called Bayside which has some really HUGE homes on large lots. But then decided on NJ instead.

Oh yes, NYC is really BIG and goes far beyond Manhattan. The image we get outside of NYC is almost exclusively Manhattan but I must say, NYC is incredibly diverse in every sense of the word. I mean, Staten Island for example, feels like a different place altogether, but no, its part of NYC too. I go on drives around the City just checking things out-especially on sunday evenings...I love it.

As a relative newbie, Im still figuring things out.
When did you come over to the darkside?
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Old 06-02-2010, 10:34 PM
 
Location: The Bay
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Heres something thats going to blow Nineties Flava's mind lol:


http://www.precon-logstrat.com/PCLS/images/vancortlandt.JPG (broken link)

"The Van Cortlandt House Museum, also known as Frederick Van Cortlandt House or Van Cortlandt House, is the oldest building in The Bronx, New York City." - Wikipedia

It's not that its blowing my mind, its that I wouldn't have guessed that there would be enough open space in a city with 18 million people for there to be single family homes with yards... lol
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Old 06-02-2010, 10:36 PM
 
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Its a city of 8 mil in I think 300 sq. miles
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Old 06-02-2010, 10:37 PM
 
Location: Cleveland
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Many of the areas in the Midwest and East Coast that are now ghettos were once wealthy neighborhoods. The housing in these areas were built for middle class and wealthy families at a time when most families were much larger than today, so the houses were larger.

For Cleveland: The worst areas of the city now, were once the best. East Cleveland is one of the poorest and most dangerous cities/suburbs in the US now, but the richest man to ever live in history (John D. Rockefeller) had a summer home there long ago, and it was overall very wealthy. The main avenue in Cleveland, Euclid, was once surrounded by mansions built in the early 1900s, by the 70s-80s the areas had deteriorated so much nearly every mansion was abandoned or demolished. The large old housing was also near completely demolished in some areas, like the Central and Hough neighborhoods. A lot of the larger houses were turned into rental duplexes in most cases. Most of this was caused by white flight, the white community became wealthier and moved to the suburbs where they had larger lots and it was cleaner. The old housing was then occupied by poor blacks who moved from the south and Hispanics who moved from other countries. Poverty, crime, decay, abandonment, etc forced everyone who could afford it to leave.
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Old 06-02-2010, 10:37 PM
 
Location: St Paul, MN - NJ's Gold Coast
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My neighborhood of Forest Hill in Newark (well I'm not officially moved in yet, but give it a little over 2 weeks) has beautiful, well maintained architecture. There's a section of the neighborhood where old Victorian mansions very much compliment the city.

Forest Hill houses--


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http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=...35.83,,0,-5.11
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=...2,35.79,,0,3.8
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=...2,45.73,,0,0.6
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=...2,20.85,,0,5.6

Ok, maybe this isn't necessarily a ghetto, but they're in the commonly referred "ghetto city" of Newark.

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Weequahic on the other hand is a neighborhood in Newark with a pretty high crime rate (it's not the worst part of Newark though) but the homes seem to be very well maintained and deceiving.


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http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=...,120.71,,0,7.7
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=...,321.33,,0,4.3
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=...2,35.11,,0,4.9
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=...,300.81,,0,2.3
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Old 06-02-2010, 10:38 PM
 
Location: Jersey Boy living in Florida
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It's not that its blowing my mind, its that I wouldn't have guessed that there would be enough open space in a city with 18 million people for there to be single family homes with yards... lol
Lol, you learn something new everyday .
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