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Just me, but I'd much rather walk around a beautiful area like Georgetown and shop at all the boutiques. There are department stores in downtown DC, but it's not as interesting.
Yeah, Georgetown is a nice place to spend an afternoon. But, I which DC had a little more of a downtown shopping district. IMO, that is what keeps DT DC from the number 3 spot.
I often hear that thrown around as well (usually 80,000-90,000 people). But, it seems kinda flimsy since definitions of what constitutes a downtown vary.
The 80,000 figure includes residential rowhouse neighborhoods south of south street and north of vine.
If Boston and SF include adjoining residential areas they can also come up with fairly comparable figures.
Actually it is over 90K and it is only the area between south and vine and front to the Schukyll River. If you include the other neighborhoods directly adjoining (Grad Hosp. Bella Vista, Queen Village, Norther Liberties, Art Museum, Fishtown etc.) and Univ City on the other side of river the greater downtown of Philly is over 200K
Actually it is over 90K and it is only the area between south and vine and front to the Schukyll River. If you include the other neighborhoods directly adjoining (Grad Hosp. Bella Vista, Queen Village, Norther Liberties, Art Museum, Fishtown etc.) and Univ City on the other side of river the greater downtown of Philly is over 200K
http://www.centercityphila.org/docs/SOCC2010_PeoplePlaces.pdf (broken link)
Ok, sorry. According to 2010 State of Center City report the downtown population is now 92,348. The area included is somewhat confusing since they use Census tracks, it looks like it goes as far north as Poplar and and far south as Christian Street. (There is a map on page 3 of the PDF).
It looks like the area between Pine and Vine runs to about 54,000.
It would be interesting to see how that stacks up against a comparable area in Bos or SF.
http://www.centercityphila.org/docs/SOCC2010_PeoplePlaces.pdf (broken link)
Ok, sorry. According to 2010 State of Center City report the downtown population is now 92,348. The area included is somewhat confusing since they use Census tracks, it looks like it goes as far north as Poplar and and far south as Christian Street. (There is a map on page 3 of the PDF).
It looks like the area between Pine and Vine runs to about 54,000.
It would be interesting to see how that stacks up against a comparable area in Bos or SF.
I would think Boston and SF would be comparable. That map is hard to read but does look like it includes some other neighborhoods (Graduate Hospital for example which starts 4 blocks South of the cbd). It also does not include any of the U City population which students (Penn and Drexel) alone is ~30K
The good news in Philly is the populaton and vibrancy of downtown is growing and the desirable neighborhoods are expanding.
It also does not include any of the U City population which students (Penn and Drexel) alone is ~30K
The good news in Philly is the populaton and vibrancy of downtown is growing and the desirable neighborhoods are expanding.
According to University City District the population of University City (Schuylkill river to 45th. Baltimore to Spring Garden) is 100,000 during semester. 50,000 during Summer.
Center City + University City(Delaware River to 45th Christian to Vine) is approximately 200,000.
Looks like the highest counts of pedestrians are some of the bridges leading from some of the commuter train stations with up to 27,000 people walking by on the south side of the Adams Street bridge, and around 44,000 counts of people walking by Watertower Place.
Another interesting thing from the Loop Alliance: Between the U of Illinois - Chicago which is located on the southwest side of downtown, and the 24 colleges/universities within the immediate Loop area - there are 95,000 students in the central area of the city.
520,000 people work within the central Loop area (with many more in the North Michigan Ave area), along with 65,000 of the above mentioned students, and hundreds of thousands of other tourists/business travelers/shoppers/people on official business bringing the weekday population to around 750,000.
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