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Texas is Southwest especially with their ties to Mexico and other Southwest States.....
Maryland is a Southern state however there are a lot of Maryland Hating Bitter Good Ol' Boys that refuse to be associated with Maryland especially Baltimore.........
You didn't answer: "So are you saying Dallas and Houston have more in common with Tucson, Phoenix, Las Vegas, Albuquerque, Then they do with New Orleans, Memphis, Little Rock, Nashville, Atlanta?.... At the same time saying DC and Baltimore has more in common with Raleigh, Charlotte, Atlanta, Nashville, Birmingham then it does with Philly, Trenton, New York, Providence, Newark, Jersey City?..."
Are you speaking for your stereotype or what you experience. Texas was once part of mexico whoopy doo, it was also a confederate state un like Maryland.
Do you even know the reasons why Texas fought against Mexico for Independence? Because the issue of slavery and Texas started to reflect a culture closer to the American southeast then to the rest of mexico. Before Texas Revolution, American immigrants into Texas out number the Mexican population from the interior. English was more common then Spanish, Mexico was Catholic while most Texans was Protestant.
North and East Texas culturally is more in line with North Louisiana, Arkansas and SE Oklahoma then it is with New Mexico. Southeast Texas is closer in line with The Gulf and generally Louisiana than it is with again New Mexico
Notice how most of Texas population is on the eastern half of the state.
A heck of a lot closer to Shreveport, LA then Santa Fe, NM. http://www.geolytics.com/images/lf-map.gif
How in hell is saying Maryland isn't southern hating on Maryland? I have nothing against Maryland And I'm black your not going to get anywhere with that it's bitter good ole boy smear speech. By the way your actually bashing the south. How are you trying to say were hating a place not calling it southern when your bashing the south?...WTF
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Southerners NEVER considered DC to be the south. Only northerners, it's mid atlantic, Baltimore is just out of the question, anyone thinking Baltimore is southern is off there rocker. Even places like Norfolk are really pushing it, go down to Mississippi or Alabama or even the Panhandle in Florida and no one considers any part of Virgina to be the south, the Mason Dixon line only matters to outsiders and northerners. It has nothing to do with slavery either, East Tennessee had almost no slaves during it's entire history. South Knoxville was a hotbed for abolitionists 100 years before slavery up until the civil war, but to call a place like Knoxville not the south is just stupid.
No, it really isn't pushing it at all and you may need to visit Virginia. Norfolk and the majority of the state of Virginia is Southern.
Most of VA is undeniably Southern. The Hampton Roads area may have some cultural dilution because of the heavy military presence, but it couldn't be mistaken for being in any other region in the country IMO.
Could you please tell us and what Virginia culture is? What was their history as well. Their linguistics and such and which region it has more in common with? Thanks. BTW, to help you out, if you refer to any state North of Maryland for either of these questions, you're wrong. I'm from Texas and had a similar opinion of VA as well. Until I came in lived in it. Virginia is Southern.
Virginia is southern overall. Even very southern in the western half and southern portions. You get west of about Fredricksburg and it feels undeniably southern. And even Richmond has a southern vibe to it. It doesnt feel the same as Atlanta, but it doesnt feel too much different than Charlotte, or Greensboro... Now Im not going to get carried away and say that DC is southern, but Virginia for the most part is.
I am from Greater Richmond, and also stayed in NoVa. Virginia, as a state, is southern. Richmond is too, but it is pushing the line. Growing up, when speaking of areas further south like Texas, Arkansas or Georgia, people generally spoke of them as IF we didnt include ourselves with them, ie making fun of accents and calling them country...
It has to be understood that you can go from one region of Vriginia to the next and feel as though you crossed state lines. VA is unique like that. I've been all over my great state and this is what I observed: the Southwest has the purest characteristics of what we generally consider southern. SW VA is almost exactly alike with East Tenn and East KY, and for these very reasons it's outcast from the majority of the rest of the state. The rest of VA kind of sees SW as backwoods, country and behind-the-times. The Southside is also very southern in nature, and has an "old south" feel to it, similar to cities and towns in North Carolina. After these two regions, the lines of "southernness" begin to blur...
The Blue Ridge/Shenandoah area is very rural, but not so much as southern as Southside or SW. This is probably because of the impact of Charlottesville on the area, which while being a small city, is rather urban. The Shenandoah area is kinda like a cross between the hamlets of Pennsylvania and the towns of SW. Certain culturisms exist but it is not definitively southern. The Eastern Shore/Chesapeake Bay Areas are similar. You kinda get a mix of Maryland and Hampton Roads and coastal Carolina, but it isnt definitively southern. It truly is kinda the definition of "mid-Atlantic"....
Hampton Roads in total has that southerness to it. But the inner cities of Norfolk and Newport News and even Hampton put that notion to the test. I wouldnt say that they feel northern, but not exclusively southern. Even Williamsburg feels more Eastern Shore like. Richmond city proper puts southern to the test. Richmond has culturisms that are southern, no doubt, but enough linguistic and urbanity stuff that gives it a mixed feel. Now the areas in Richmond's metro north of the city have that NoVa transition phase goin on, like Hanover and Doswell. South of the city, but still in the metro, it becomes more southern the farther south you go. The Tri-Cities are fairly southern; however my hometown of Prince George and Hopewell are probably the most non-southern parts of it. They have that Eastern Shore/Richmond city/north of city flair....
And I dont think anyone has to be informed about NoVa. It is what it is. Collectively, yes, Virginia should still be considered a southern state. But the southerness and the number of people who self-identify as such fluctuates from region to region, and only people who have lived there for a lengthy amount of time would realize that...
The Southside is also very southern in nature, and has an "old south" feel to it, similar to cities and towns in North Carolina.
All NC cities don't have an "old South" feel. As a matter of fact, as far as larger towns/cities go, I'd only apply that label to places like Wilmington and Greenville. Otherwise, there's nothing "old South" about Raleigh, Durham, Winston-Salem, Asheville, Charlotte, etc.
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