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View Poll Results: Boston or Los Angeles
Boston 140 51.28%
L.A. 133 48.72%
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Old 06-13-2008, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Me too.
Hey, with all do respect to California.... you couldn't pay me to live there. We may have tornados and an occasional flash flood, but I'd take that over earthquakes, forest fires/wildfires, landslides, blackouts, over-the-top expensive living, and a governer who can't even speek good english anyday.
In California, all you have to do is buy a house which isn't on an active fault and is on some good bedrock (regarding earthquakes), don't buy a house in a canyon or in a very hilly area (regarding fires and landslide), and buy a generator if worried about blackouts (which doesn't happen very often).

As for expensive living, you get what you pay for! But there are some reasonable areas... nice areas but not super-expensive.

As for a governor who can't speak good English, that's the least of our problems.
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Old 06-13-2008, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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You do have earthquakes...
Not as frequent as hurricanes, though. (The real large ones, that is.)

Earthquakes are very survivable. Even though I was less than 4 miles away from the epicenter of the 1994 Northridge earthquake, not one house collapsed or even partially collapsed. No one one was killed in my neighborhood. Compare that with the number of people killed in Hurricane Katrina or Andrew or Hugo.
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Old 06-13-2008, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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And just plain landslides, which can occur whenever.

I'm glad I don't live by all that.
It's only a problem when people build houses where they shouldn't. It's like building houses where hurricanes are known to strike. I'm glad I don't live by all of that. ;-)

Landslides have a zero effect on me.
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Old 06-13-2008, 03:16 PM
 
Location: yeah
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Im talking USA history, not pre-USA Mexican history. And if you want to explore USA history, Boston has far more treasures than L.A. If you want Mexican history, L.A. is the place. Catch my drift?
So "history" is to be read as "US history?" You're only proving my point further.
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Old 06-13-2008, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Jersey City
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Not as frequent as hurricanes, though. (The real large ones, that is.)

Earthquakes are very survivable. Even though I was less than 4 miles away from the epicenter of the 1994 Northridge earthquake, not one house collapsed or even partially collapsed. No one one was killed in my neighborhood. Compare that with the number of people killed in Hurricane Katrina or Andrew or Hugo.
To be fair, how often do storms like Katrina or Andrew or Hugo hit Boston? The northeast can be hit with hurricanes, though they're extremely infrequent. A "major" hurricane hasn't made landfall anywhere in the northeast in 60 years. The cooler water (less than 80 degrees) weakens those storms very quickly. Cat 1 or 2 storms are also very rare in the NE, and not much stronger than "Pacific storms" that come in from time to time.

Furthermore, hurricanes approach the Northeast from the south. Boston is well inland from south-facing beaches. Even if a Cat 3 or 4 hurricane hit the south shore of MA, it would weaken significantly before reaching Boston. Although a church steeple in Boston was toppled during a hurricane in 1804. The biggest threat exists in Long Island, CT, RI, and the south shore of MA.

If you really want to compare death tolls, Northridge killed more people than Hugo or Andrew (Northridge: 57, Hugo: 35, Andrew: 39). Katrina was an extremely deadly hurricane, and fortunately an event that could not be reproduced under many different circumstances.
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Old 06-13-2008, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Phoenix metro
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So "history" is to be read as "US history?" You're only proving my point further.
I guess I worded my phrase wrong in my original post. Instead of simply saying "history", I should have said "USA history". There, better?
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Old 06-13-2008, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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To be fair, how often do storms like Katrina or Andrew or Hugo hit Boston? The northeast can be hit with hurricanes, though they're extremely infrequent. A "major" hurricane hasn't made landfall anywhere in the northeast in 60 years. The cooler water (less than 80 degrees) weakens those storms very quickly. Cat 1 or 2 storms are also very rare in the NE, and not much stronger than "Pacific storms" that come in from time to time.
It is safe to assume that more people are killed in Boston each year by snow storms, cold and blizzards than are killed by earthquakes in California.

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Furthermore, hurricanes approach the Northeast from the south. Boston is well inland from south-facing beaches. Even if a Cat 3 or 4 hurricane hit the south shore of MA, it would weaken significantly before reaching Boston. Although a church steeple in Boston was toppled during a hurricane in 1804. The biggest threat exists in Long Island, CT, RI, and the south shore of MA.
Don't forget about the 1938 hurricane, which reached as far north as New England, which killed 682 people.

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If you really want to compare death tolls, Northridge killed more people than Hugo or Andrew (Northridge: 57, Hugo: 35, Andrew: 39). Katrina was an extremely deadly hurricane, and fortunately an event that could not be reproduced under many different circumstances
Okay, let's compare:

1971 Sylmar quake............. 65 killed
1994 Northridge quake........ 60

1989 Hugo........................ 89
1992 Andrew..................... 65
2005 Katrina...................... 1,135-1,300

And:
1906 San Francisco quake.... 600 "official" (experts say more like 2,000)
1900 Galveston hurricane..... 8,000
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Old 06-13-2008, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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You do have earthquakes...
So does Boston.
Interesting that this thread is about two cities that have had quakes of 6 Richter magnitude or higher.

The one in Boston I am referring to is the 1755 quake which was centered offshore and had an estimated magnitude of 6.0 to 6.5

Boston is actually classified as being in a "moderate" risk zone for earthquakes.

Due to the soil type and that fact that the land is not broken up by numerous faults like California is means that quakes in the east affect a much larger area. For instance, a large quake estimated to be a magnitude 7.0 occurred on Feb. 5, 1663 in the Quebec province. It caused major landslides and liquefaction along the St. Lawrence River. The shaking lasted about 90 seconds (it was about 25-30 seconds for the '94 Northridge quake) and caused panic as far away as Boston.
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Old 06-13-2008, 07:56 PM
 
Location: yeah
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I guess I worded my phrase wrong in my original post. Instead of simply saying "history", I should have said "USA history". There, better?
Yeah, I guess that's better.
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Old 06-14-2008, 12:41 PM
JJG
 
Location: Fort Worth
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In California, all you have to do is buy a house which isn't on an active fault and is on some good bedrock (regarding earthquakes), don't buy a house in a canyon or in a very hilly area (regarding fires and landslide), and buy a generator if worried about blackouts (which doesn't happen very often).

As for expensive living, you get what you pay for! But there are some reasonable areas... nice areas but not super-expensive.

As for a governor who can't speak good English, that's the least of our problems.
Yeah, well it just seems like Cali has the most problems, that's all.
p.s. At least your governor (x-cuse the spelling ) has something ours doesn't.... a home (broken link).
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