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Old 01-16-2024, 11:55 AM
 
Location: the future
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New Orleans had 218 in 2023, which would put its rate at 58/100k

https://x.com/metrocrimenola/status/...007945448?s=46
Thats the thing with some reporting as another poster brought to my attention. New Orleans had 193 murders but 218 homicides which includes justified. Cities like DC , Baltimore, St Louis only report murders otherwise those cities would have higher totals.
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Old 01-16-2024, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Odenton, MD
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Thats the thing with some reporting as another poster brought to my attention. New Orleans had 193 murders but 218 homicides which includes justified. Cities like DC , Baltimore, St Louis only report murders otherwise those cities would have higher totals.
Baltimore includes justified homicides. Baltimore had 334 homicides (299 murders) in 2022.

2023's breakdown hasn't been released yet.
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Old 01-16-2024, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Northeast states
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So attaching this just for further proof that Miami is lying about 31 homicides (and just in case Miami boosters think I'm lying/"hating" on the city)

From July 17th to December 31st (that's the furthest I can go back now) the city had 25 murders. They did not include 3 that happened in the last 1-2 weeks of December (28) the July 1-Dec 31 had 27 (30 total). So with the map below and the claims of 31 homicides, that means 1-4 homicides happened in the first six months, which is a lie.

I wish I screenshot Jan 1- June 30, when it showed 25 murders. So clearly, they're hiding how many murders truly happened. Others I personally know believe the same thing and some are going as far to ask the police department and crime mapping orgs to release data/asked for freedom of information requests.


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2023 was lowest year for homicides in Miami and overall crime been dropping. The city been gentrifying it pushing out the crime out of Florida.
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Old 01-16-2024, 08:42 PM
 
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In recent months Jackson has been having only 5 murders per month. I assume that the Capitol Police are having some effect outside their targeted service area for such a drastic drop in murders. Also, Jackson is losing about 4,000 residents per year.

A similar city to Jackson is Augusta, Georgia which generally has had only 20 or so murders per year, perhaps slightly higher in the last couple of years. With current trends I could envision Jackson dropping to similar numbers over the next 10 to 15 years or perhaps even sooner.
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Old 01-17-2024, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Tupelo, Ms
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In recent months Jackson has been having only 5 murders per month. I assume that the Capitol Police are having some effect outside their targeted service area for such a drastic drop in murders. Also, Jackson is losing about 4,000 residents per year.

A similar city to Jackson is Augusta, Georgia which generally has had only 20 or so murders per year, perhaps slightly higher in the last couple of years. With current trends I could envision Jackson dropping to similar numbers over the next 10 to 15 years or perhaps even sooner.
Nope. Capitol Police have been patroling the areas of the city with lowest homicides. It wasn't that much of a difference before there expansion and creation.
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Old 01-17-2024, 09:20 AM
 
Location: North Raleigh x North Sacramento
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In recent months Jackson has been having only 5 murders per month. I assume that the Capitol Police are having some effect outside their targeted service area for such a drastic drop in murders. Also, Jackson is losing about 4,000 residents per year.

A similar city to Jackson is Augusta, Georgia which generally has had only 20 or so murders per year, perhaps slightly higher in the last couple of years. With current trends I could envision Jackson dropping to similar numbers over the next 10 to 15 years or perhaps even sooner.
Augusta averages around 33/year the last 5 years. Which if Jackson ever gets that low, would be a hell of a turnaround even though 33 is still a lot of homicides for a city of ~200k...

There's a path forward for Jackson that has been blazed before. Richmond VA average annual homicides/homicides rate in the 90s was 116/57.25, peaking as high as 80 per 100k in 1994 (161 murders). Richmond bottomed out in 2008 with just 31/15.15, which is obviously a long way from 161/80.1, and had that turnaround in just 14 years. Newark NJ is also another city that was super violent for a long time and has largely reversed those trends. So there are examples Jackson police can seek to learn from...

Richmond today, 2020s-to-date, is averaging around 71 homicides a year. It's not good, but it's still significantly better than what Richmond was in the 90s in its peak era of violence...
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Old 01-17-2024, 07:48 PM
 
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Augusta averages around 33/year the last 5 years. Which if Jackson ever gets that low, would be a hell of a turnaround even though 33 is still a lot of homicides for a city of ~200k...

There's a path forward for Jackson that has been blazed before. Richmond VA average annual homicides/homicides rate in the 90s was 116/57.25, peaking as high as 80 per 100k in 1994 (161 murders). Richmond bottomed out in 2008 with just 31/15.15, which is obviously a long way from 161/80.1, and had that turnaround in just 14 years. Newark NJ is also another city that was super violent for a long time and has largely reversed those trends. So there are examples Jackson police can seek to learn from...

Richmond today, 2020s-to-date, is averaging around 71 homicides a year. It's not good, but it's still significantly better than what Richmond was in the 90s in its peak era of violence...
Similar thing with why Detroit and Memphis swapped raw homicide numbers in recent years, especially in the mid 2010s, and Memphis finally overtook Detroit in Raw homicides in 2023.
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Old 01-17-2024, 09:22 PM
 
Location: Tupelo, Ms
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Augusta averages around 33/year the last 5 years. Which if Jackson ever gets that low, would be a hell of a turnaround even though 33 is still a lot of homicides for a city of ~200k...

There's a path forward for Jackson that has been blazed before. Richmond VA average annual homicides/homicides rate in the 90s was 116/57.25, peaking as high as 80 per 100k in 1994 (161 murders). Richmond bottomed out in 2008 with just 31/15.15, which is obviously a long way from 161/80.1, and had that turnaround in just 14 years. Newark NJ is also another city that was super violent for a long time and has largely reversed those trends. So there are examples Jackson police can seek to learn from...

Richmond today, 2020s-to-date, is averaging around 71 homicides a year. It's not good, but it's still significantly better than what Richmond was in the 90s in its peak era of violence...
Those are comparable cities from different parts of the country. I recall our past comparisons of Richmond & Jackson. I estimated it was going to get worser in Jacktown around late 010s bit not into the 100s. Historic neighborhood rivalries to present cliques banging on social media.
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Old 01-18-2024, 06:59 AM
 
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Similar thing with why Detroit and Memphis swapped raw homicide numbers in recent years, especially in the mid 2010s, and Memphis finally overtook Detroit in Raw homicides in 2023.
They are also almost identical in city population.
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Old 01-18-2024, 07:45 AM
 
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They are also almost identical in city population.
Same with Memphis and Baltimore as Baltimore over took Detroit since about 2015. Memphis is basically turning into post Freddie Gray Baltimore.
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