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Old 04-25-2016, 07:56 AM
 
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The city is a result of a city-county merger and is 350 sq miles, so I'd say that's why it has more people. Richmond would be significantly larger than Chesapeake if it were that size.
Richmond is also significantly older than both Chesapeake and Virginia Beach besides having less people AND more crime.
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Old 04-25-2016, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Richmond, VA
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Richmond is also significantly older than both Chesapeake and Virginia Beach besides having less people AND more crime.
Chesapeake and Virginia Beach (and Suffolk, etc.) are better compared to Fairfax, Chesterfield and Henrico than with a Richmond, Norfolk or Alexandria. And as a resident of Virginia, you understand why. They are suburbs that combined and converted into cities during the Civil Rights era. Virginia's older urban cities are vastly different in character, geographic size, and makeup than these huge historically-recent contrivations designed to landlock the urban cities nearby.

I will agree that they have a lot of nice things about them, but they continue to be largely suburban in nature. So they should be compared with other suburbs. They are not "peers" with Norfolk and Richmond and lack the things that would anchor a region, although VB is starting to come into its own.
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Old 04-25-2016, 09:53 AM
 
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Chesapeake and Virginia Beach (and Suffolk, etc.) are better compared to Fairfax, Chesterfield and Henrico than with a Richmond, Norfolk or Alexandria. And as a resident of Virginia, you understand why. They are suburbs that combined and converted into cities during the Civil Rights era. Virginia's older urban cities are vastly different in character, geographic size, and makeup than these huge historically-recent contrivations designed to landlock the urban cities nearby.

I will agree that they have a lot of nice things about them, but they continue to be largely suburban in nature. So they should be compared with other suburbs. They are not "peers" with Norfolk and Richmond and lack the things that would anchor a region, although VB is starting to come into its own.
I can agree with this.
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Old 05-16-2016, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Portsmouth, VA
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Chesapeake and Virginia Beach (and Suffolk, etc.) are better compared to Fairfax, Chesterfield and Henrico than with a Richmond, Norfolk or Alexandria. And as a resident of Virginia, you understand why. They are suburbs that combined and converted into cities during the Civil Rights era. Virginia's older urban cities are vastly different in character, geographic size, and makeup than these huge historically-recent contrivations designed to landlock the urban cities nearby.

I will agree that they have a lot of nice things about them, but they continue to be largely suburban in nature. So they should be compared with other suburbs. They are not "peers" with Norfolk and Richmond and lack the things that would anchor a region, although VB is starting to come into its own.
Virginia Beach? Perhaps, in about another 50 years. Maybe 20. Chesapeake, it appears, does not even want to come into its own.
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Old 05-16-2016, 04:34 PM
 
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It's still Corpus Christi.
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Old 05-16-2016, 07:15 PM
 
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It's still Corpus Christi.
And that statement is still absurd.
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Old 05-17-2016, 01:46 AM
 
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It's still Corpus Christi.
So not cute, why even waste time posting?
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Old 05-17-2016, 05:26 AM
 
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So not cute, why even waste time posting?
Because it's true. City-to-city they're peers. Norfolk just has the fortune of being located next to 6 other cities, so it inherited a metro that it didn't have to grow. How, if you haven't been to Corpus, just say so, because they are very clearly peers.
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Old 05-17-2016, 05:41 AM
 
Location: Portsmouth, VA
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Because it's true. City-to-city they're peers. Norfolk just has the fortune of being located next to 6 other cities, so it inherited a metro that it didn't have to grow. How, if you haven't been to Corpus, just say so, because they are very clearly peers.
Corpus Cristi is a really small metro. I see where you're going with the 6 county metro thing but its a stretch. San Francisco is a better comparison. The city/county arrangement, very similar to Virginia's Independent City arrangement, and difference in population between the core city and the metro is also very similar to that of Norfolk in comparison to all of Hampton Roads. Not that Hampton Roads is as populous as the Bay Area, but if you look at it mathematically the Bay Area is about as much bigger than San Francisco as Hampton Roads is bigger than Norfolk, population wise.
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Old 05-17-2016, 01:16 PM
 
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Because it's true. City-to-city they're peers. Norfolk just has the fortune of being located next to 6 other cities, so it inherited a metro that it didn't have to grow. How, if you haven't been to Corpus, just say so, because they are very clearly peers.
Been there dude and still no to the peer.
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