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View Poll Results: Which do you prefer?
Richmond VA 152 54.29%
Raleigh NC 128 45.71%
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Old 01-25-2015, 08:41 PM
 
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Old Alexandria? You mean Old Town?

And no you're wrong, you forgot Arlington and Tysons.
Which arent any more urban than areas in the Triangle. Both are just bloated office parks.
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Old 01-25-2015, 08:48 PM
 
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NOVA is one of the most densely populated areas in the South. It has a huge footprint (sprawl) but it is filled with massive residential and business centers. It is nothing like the Triangle, in any way.

I've never witnessed a public breakdown there (I've lived in Reston and Leesburg). Some people just invite drama into their lives I guess.
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Old 01-25-2015, 09:03 PM
 
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Which arent any more urban than areas in the Triangle. Both are just bloated office parks.
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

Arlington
• Density 8,309/sq mi (3,208/km²)

Raleigh
• Density 3,023.4/sq mi (1,170.04/km2)

And let's not even get started on Durham. Arlington isn't a big office park, it's clear you've never been there. As for Tyson's yes it is but with the silver line and new future plans it won't be. The research triangle along with Raleigh is sparse and sprawled. They are nothing alike.
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Old 01-25-2015, 09:11 PM
 
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Arlington is every bit as urban as downtown Raleigh. Roslyn is more urban and bigger than downtown Raleigh. Ballston is as urban and is bigger than downtown Raleigh. Crystal City is as urban as downtown Raleigh. Alexandria is way more urban and larger than downtown Raleigh. Tyson's Corner is urban and is a larger business center than downtown Charlotte...and on and on.
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Old 01-25-2015, 09:14 PM
 
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Besides the Metro running through it and historic areas in Old Alexandria, no it's not. NOVA is equally as sprawly and suburban as The Triangle, IMO.
The Triangle is like a watered down NOVA. They both have their share of suburbia. Alexandria and Arlington alone, has more urbanity than any city in NC could dream of.
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Old 01-25-2015, 09:25 PM
 
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It isn't all about NOVA either. The commonwealth spreads the wealth pretty evenly. Please note that neither Raleigh nor Charlotte have areas as dark on this map as Richmond and Tidewater.

http://www.mappery.com/maps/USA-Income-Map.gif

Without NOVA, Virginia would still rank higher than North Carolina. Of course we get to the enjoy the bounty of NoVa because it is in Virginia.
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Old 01-25-2015, 09:41 PM
 
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You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

Arlington
• Density 8,309/sq mi (3,208/km²)

Raleigh
• Density 3,023.4/sq mi (1,170.04/km2)

And let's not even get started on Durham. Arlington isn't a big office park, it's clear you've never been there. As for Tyson's yes it is but with the silver line and new future plans it won't be. The research triangle along with Raleigh is sparse and sprawled. They are nothing alike.
Nah, its a big office park... with apartment towers. Happy? Been many times. The original post I replied to made it seem like it was midtown manhattan compared to a strip mall. Drop yourself in the middle of DT Raleigh and Arlington, you wont see much of a difference. Yes Arlington is more urban than the main urban core of Raleigh, but not by as much as you have convinced yourself.

And future plans arent now.
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Old 01-25-2015, 09:57 PM
 
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Nah, its a big office park... with apartment towers. Happy? Been many times. The original post I replied to made it seem like it was midtown manhattan compared to a strip mall. Drop yourself in the middle of DT Raleigh and Arlington, you wont see much of a difference. Yes Arlington is more urban than the main urban core of Raleigh, but not by as much as you have convinced yourself.

And future plans arent now.
I've given you stats that clearly show Arlington is a lot more dense than Raleigh yet you're still trying to convince yourself they're not.

No, Arlington isn't a big office park with apartment towers. It's like a small city, with high rises because of the DC height limit, retail, restaurants, lounges, bars, etc. People work, play and live in Arlington. That's not really the case for Tysons as of 2015. You clearly don't know what you're talking about or you're just very in-denial. Look the density stats I provided and they're very different as you can see. The triangle in general isn't as dense as NoVa.
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Old 01-25-2015, 10:05 PM
 
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http://mobilitylab.org/wp-content/up...on-skyline.jpg

Arlington visual aid.
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Old 01-25-2015, 10:29 PM
 
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and beautiful Richmond...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/cpjrva...52449/sizes/h/
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