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Sorry 18, I'm going to have to distance myself from this ranking.
How could you explain UC Irvine or Boulder outperforming USC, BROWN, and Rice. The SAT scores required to get into these schools are nothing short of elite level, their acceptance rates are some of the most rigorous in the entire country, and a lot of these schools lead in engineering, business management, medicine, etc.
There's no reason on the face of the planet that Brown should be 65th and some reject school that practically lets everyone that applies in like Arizona State being anywhere near it and ahead of Rice.
That's absurd.
It's explained by the fact that school selectivity is obviously not a part of the criteria. Which makes this ranking as useless as t*ts on a bull.
Sorry 18, I'm going to have to distance myself from this ranking.
How could you explain UC Irvine or Boulder outperforming USC, BROWN, and Rice. The SAT scores required to get into these schools are nothing short of elite level, their acceptance rates are some of the most rigorous in the entire country, and a lot of these schools lead in engineering, business management, medicine, etc.
There's no reason on the face of the planet that Brown should be 65th and some bottom tier school that practically lets everyone that applies in like Arizona State being anywhere near it and ahead of Rice.
We're comparing schools where the SAT composite scores are 1500/2400 and an acceptance rate of 85% being higher ranked than schools where you need 2200/2400 to get in with less than 20% acceptance rate. That's absurd.
Well this ranking does NOT take into account US-centric things such as SAT scores because students in other countries dont take the SATs.
Like I already posted, the criteria is the following:
For the above criteria, the ranking is what is found in the first post of this thread.
Other criteria may yield different results.
I think some people are unknowingly surprised at how different this ranking is from US News. Makes you wonder about US News' criteria, which appears to place an inordinate amount of emphasis on reputation and what seems like ZERO consideration for the caliber of the curriculum students face once they actually get or how expert the faculty is---which to me is far more important than alumni giving rates and how much teachers are paid(US News weighs both, which to me doesnt really matter in the context of quality).
University of Minnesota and University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign are both good schools, but few people regard them as being better than Northwestern or Washington University...
I had NO IDEA the U of MN ranked higher than some other very prestigious universities (e.g. Northwestern, USC or Washington U) -- not because those universities suck, but because I thought the U of M was kinda "average", or slightly above average, at best. Meanwhile, my alma mater (Ohio State) ranked quite a bit lower than I would have hoped.
University of Minnesota and University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign are both good schools, but few people regard them as being better than Northwestern or Washington University...
Agree, and maybe they shouldn't, but maybe U of M and U of I should be more highly regarded. For instance, this isn't the 1st time I've seen U of I as a top school in some ranking....it's CLEARLY a better school than I ever thought it was!
Not that most of this means anything to a lay person. For most people, where you went to school is a good conversation starter, but not determinative of what you can accomplish in life.
If you're in academia, that's another story altogether, but most people aren't.
Agree with you on that one! It's a "foot in the door", or a means to gain the experience to learn, but not a ticket to a job or career per se WHATSOEVER. Without the degree I couldn't do the job I'm doing, but the four years it took to gain my degree and every grade I received for my education was nuanced in a matter of seconds each time an employer views my resume. It's merely a checkmark on a LONG list of "wants". Once you gain some experience, your school and GPA become that much more of a checkmark!
U of MN is NOT higher than Northwestern (or other Top Ten Universities). Pretty weird ranking.
Although I don't disagree, why do you single THAT one out? Did you go there or something?
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