Rank the '2 million metros' by the following criteria (downtown, size, neighborhood)

[Trimac20]

I'm surprised at how vibrant San Antonio is! Pity didn't get to visit it, but Austin was quite pumping.

[lvoc]

Originally Posted by Trimac20

Yes, I was going to comment on Vegas. It's an outlier because, a fact that most people don't know, is that the Las Vegas Strip/Blvd isn't even in the Las Vegas city limits! The actual downtown, where Fremont street is, is more fitting of a city with about 50,000 people, truly, and you have to walk through some pretty ghetto-y nabes to get there.

Irrelevant - We are talking MSEs. And the strip is the downtown of Las Vegas. It is also our industrial area...

And as I said it is generally compared to NY, LA and Chicago...not to the these places.

As a place to live and work it is the middle of the American pack. But not for any kind of vibs. That is the Las Vegas forte...

[SweethomeSanAntonio]

24 San Antonio-New Braunfels, TX MSA 2,194,927 2,142,508 +2.45%
25 Sacramento–Arden-Arcade–Roseville, CA MSA 2,176,235 2,149,127 +1.26% Sacramento–Arden Arcade–Yuba City, CA-NV CSA
26 Orlando-Kissimmee-Sanford, FL MSA 2,171,360 2,134,411 +1.73% Orlando-Deltona-Daytona Beach, FL CSA
27 Cincinnati-Middletown, OH-KY-IN MSA 2,138,038 2,130,151 +0.37% Cincinnati-Middletown-Wilmington, OH-KY-IN CSA
28 Cleveland-Elyria-Mentor, OH MSA 2,068,283 2,077,240 −0.43% Cleveland-Akron-Elyria, OH CSA
29 Kansas City, MO-KS MSA 2,052,676 2,035,334 +0.85% Kansas City-Overland Park-Kansas City, MO-KS CSA
30 Las Vegas-Paradise, NV MSA 1,969,975 1,951,269 +0.96% Las Vegas-Paradise-Pahrump, NV CSA
31 San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA MSA 1,865,450 1,836,911 +1.55% San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA CSA
32 Columbus, OH MSA 1,858,464 1,836,536 +1.19% Columbus-Marion-Chillicothe, OH CSA
33 Charlotte-Gastonia-Rock Hill, NC-SC MSA 1,795,472 1,758,038 +2.13% Charlotte-Gastonia-Salisbury, NC-SC CSA
34 Austin-Round Rock-San Marcos, TX MSA 1,783,519 1,716,289 +3.92% Austin-Round Rock-Marble Falls, TX CSA
35 Indianapolis-Carmel, IN MSA

MSA's with roughly 2 million people.

How would you rank them (first to last) in the following criteria:

1. Downtown vibrancy

Las Vegas Strip only
San Antonio
Austin
Indianapolis
Orlando
Kansas City
Cleveland
Cincinnati
Sacramento/Charlotte/San Jose



2. Nighttime vibrancy

Las Vegas strip
San Antonio all week
Austin weekends
Indianapolis
Orlando
Kansas City
Cleveland
Cincinnati
Sacramento/Charlotte/San Jose



3. Size of metro (physical, subjective)

San Antonio
Cleveland
Las Vegas
Cincinnati
kansas City
Orlando
San Jose
Austin
Indianapolis
Charlotte
Columbus

4. Size of downtown (subjective 'downtown' not official)

Cincinnati
San Antonio Footprint
Cleveland
Kansas City
Austin
Charlotte
Indianapolis
Columbus
Sacramento/San Jose/Orlando
Las vegas

[Champ le monstre du lac]

Originally Posted by Caesarstl

Not really important to me either way, but I am curious... is there a story here?

ehh...I'd rather not provoke and would rather keep the thread on topic. Kentucky just rubbed me the wrong way and Cincinnati just isn't on my radar.

[Austinite101]

Las Vegas
Austin
San Antonio
Indianapolis
Orlando
Kansas City
Cleveland
Cincinnati
Charlotte
Sacramento
San Jose

[krudmonk]

Middle 'Merica fighting back hard in this thread

[Shakeesha]

Where is Nashville?

[Austincool]

Originally Posted by Shakeesha

Where is Nashville?

Not over 2 million.

[rnc2mbfl]

Originally Posted by Austincool

Not over 2 million.

To be fair, Austin isn't over 2 million either but it's on the list. While it will reach 2 million before 2020, there's no current measurement that places it near, at or above 2 million.....unless 1.8 million and change is considered "near". Near to me would have to be 1.95 million+.
Also note that at the time this thread was created, others weren't over or near 2 million in their MSAs either.

[JoeTarheel]

Las Vegas
Austin
Charlotte
Columbus
Kansas City
Cincinnati
San Jose
Indianapolis
Orlando
Cleveland
Sacramento