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View Poll Results: Does density make a city?
Yes! 55 50.93%
No! 31 28.70%
It depends on the city we're talking about.. 22 20.37%
Voters: 108. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-07-2011, 01:52 PM
 
Location: The City
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Density does not bring amenities that is so untrue. How many dense impoverish areas do we know in cities, that lack amenities in the US before we even go to other countries?


But anyway a center of commerce, intuitions, amenities, culture, employment and etc defines a city to me.

While I dont disagree I think the thing is with all these other criteria met density can enhance in ways that a lack of density cannot, ie achievement of greater vibrancy
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Old 10-07-2011, 02:09 PM
 
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While I dont disagree I think the thing is with all these other criteria met density can enhance in ways that a lack of density cannot, ie achievement of greater vibrancy
I can agree with that, but density in a philosophy of substance is a accident property, how ever those things I listed are more of a essence property to a city. Example many cities may appear to be denser than LA, and may have a larger skyline than LA, but LA has more intuitions, amenities, and culture then what most cities can dream of achieving.
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Old 10-07-2011, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Providence, RI
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Density does not bring amenities that is so untrue. How many dense impoverish areas do we know in cities, that lack amenities in the US before we even go to other countries? neighborhoods that lack grocery stores and markets places but have plenty of liquor stores.
Of course amenities spring up around areas with higher population densities! Especially stores, restaurants, etc. That's the nature of business... open a store where the people are. If you opened a business, wouldn't it be where you have easy access to customers and an employment base?

How many liquor stores or grocery stores or any kind of stores have you seen in areas completely uninhabited by people? None. Why? Because no one lives there.

No one ever said that every populated area has every amenity they need. What you're talking about is an entirely different topic. Of course there are places that lack certain things that may be better for their area. However, businesses (particularly services and need-based enterprises) always locate near people. Even the worst slums on earth have markets and food stalls. Those bad areas in the US that have liquor stores also have fast food joints and check cashing places, pawn shops, etc. It may be sad, but those businesses fulfill certain demands of their clientele. And while those impoverished neighborhoods may not have a high-end or middle of the road supermarket, they certainly have places to buy food.
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Old 10-07-2011, 04:02 PM
 
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population density no.

structural density/walkability/transit yes.

pop density is often low income public housing or dorms.
I'd rather live in tiny Geneva, CH which is only 180k people than massive suburban oriented metros. It's a lifestyle thing, really.

I prefer SF much more than LA for instance. Or prefer New Orleans much more than Atlanta. and on down the list.
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Old 10-07-2011, 04:06 PM
 
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population density no.

structural density/walkability/transit yes.

pop density is often low income public housing or dorms.
I'd rather live in tiny Geneva, CH which is only 180k people than massive suburban oriented metros. It's a lifestyle thing, really.

I prefer SF much more than LA for instance. Or prefer New Orleans much more than Atlanta. and on down the list.
CH?, Chicago isnt a state.
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Old 10-07-2011, 04:06 PM
 
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CH?, Chicago isnt a state.
It's a country.
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Old 10-07-2011, 04:08 PM
 
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It's a country.
what country?
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Old 10-07-2011, 05:07 PM
 
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what country?
Look it up yourself.
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Old 10-07-2011, 05:11 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
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On this site, any city that doesn't look, act, or smell like NYC, or atleast attemping to, isn't urban.
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Old 10-07-2011, 05:28 PM
 
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You people realize a city is a form of government, cities can have 2,000 people and towns can have 60,000.
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