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Phoenix downtown with a 4.4 Million metro
Or Charlotte downtown with a 2 million metro
I will not argue about Phoenix's downtown; however, why don't you respond to my last response to you about the retiree comment you made, or are you just going to pick apart Phoenix until you feel correct about something?
Phoenix gets "urbanites" from LA. Charlotte gets urbanites from NYC.
To be fair, Phoenix does have 20 miles of light rail now (double the distance of Charlotte's system). However, Charlotte's downtown is built in a more urban fashion than downtown Phoenix.
From my experience with Charlotte; those I've talked to that have relocated from the NYC area (or so they say), I'd say it's attracting more anti-urbanites than those in favor of an urban environment.
I will not argue about Phoenix's downtown; however, why don't you respond to my last response to you about the retiree comment you made, or are you just going to pick apart Phoenix until you feel correct about something?
Sure your comment is fine. I didn't know I needed to respond to every single post in the thread. No need to get so offended.
Sure your comment is fine. I didn't know I needed to respond to every single post in the thread. No need to get so offended.
It's not about me getting offended. It is about you trying to paint Phoenix in a certain light that isn't altogether accurate, so that it helps you to prop up your city or point. It's ok to not know everything about a city here at CD. I thought the initial purpose of CD was to get to know more about other places that we may not be altogether familiar with.
It's not about me getting offended. It is about you trying to paint Phoenix in a certain light that isn't altogether accurate, so that it helps you to prop up your city or point. It's ok to not know everything about a city here at CD. I thought the initial purpose of CD was to get to know more about other places that we may not be altogether familiar with.
No I was just saying the Phoenix area has a more retiree/resort vibe than Charlotte, more people go there for that, including more retirees, median age or not. It changes the vibe of the nicer areas.
From my experience with Charlotte; those I've talked to that have relocated from the NYC area (or so they say), I'd say it's attracting more anti-urbanites than those in favor of an urban environment.
That's my perception, too. The people who say they are from New York, are actually from Connecticut, and they went to Charlotte specifically to get away from high urban density.
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Even given their criteria, it doesn't seem to follow the data.......at least as I know it. I don't feel as though the rankings are accurate, but I'm not surprised. I also don't see Chicago on this list for some reason, and it's one of the best cities in the world, if not America. Want a REAL top 10 list?:
1. New York
2. Chicago
3. D.C.
4. San Francisco
5. L.A.
6. Boston
7. Philadelphia
8. Seattle
9. Atlanta
10. Minneapolis/St. Paul
That's my perception, too. The people who say they are from New York, are actually from Connecticut, and they went to Charlotte specifically to get away from high urban density.
The truth is that Charlotte has northeastern suburbanites and urbanites. You will find the former in places like Ballantyne; while the latter will be in neighborhoods like Southend, Dilworth, Elizabeth or uptown. I've personally assisted SEVERAL folks in their search for both urban and suburban locations in metro Charlotte.
Also, it is not wise to assume that only transplants from the northeast are fueling Charlotte's urban efforts. Most of the guys that pushed big changes here in the 1990s were CEOs with southern accents.
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I think you guys are confusing the list. Its not a "most urban cities" list.
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