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Yes, I'm too curious about where this is. I really can't think of anywhere in Chicagoland where walking around the mall would be 50% hispanic and 30% Asian together.
Well it's a mall. Malls are inherently designed to attract people from several different areas (usually suburbs). And it's such a massive mall that it definitely could draw from suburbs with both high Hispanic and high Asian populations. Schaumburg itself has a fairly high Asian population if I remember correctly. So while anecdotal, it's not outside of the realm of possibility. It's been a good while since I've been to Schaumburg but I do remember Woodfield Mall hosting a highly diverse range of patrons.
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I don't even think there is anywhere in Chicagoland that is that high in Asian. I always thought that Oak Brook might have the largest Asian %, but even there its not quite 25%.
Morton Grove I thought was the suburb with the highest Asian percentage at 28% Also obviously Armour Square (Chinatown) which is 72% Asian.
And the areas where there's a high Asian% are not the same with a high hispanic%. But I could see a few areas where the malls might be 50% hispanic, for example North Riverside mall (close to Cicero and Berwyn). (What mall is closest to Franklin Park, Northlake, Des Plaines, etc. around O'Hare? That might possible be 50% hispanic too.
Also how would you know who is Italian-American?? Sure on average they look different than white Americans of other backgrounds but still, unless you ask you wouldn't know. Besides other midwest cities have a high % of Italian Americans, most notable Cleveland.
Sure, Chicago may have an edge when it comes to diversity over other midwest cities, but other midwest metro areas, metro Detroit (largest Arab population in the country), greater Cleveland (Italian and eastern European heritage similar to Chicagoland but scaled down), Twin Cities (significant Asian and sub-Sah African) also have significant diversity too.
Yeah, I'm not super familiar with Chicagoland but I've never seen anything compared to what I've seen in Los Angeles. The suburb where I work (Alhambra) is 55% Asian and about 35% Hispanic and 10% white.
Possibly Blues as a whole, but it began in the Mississippi Delta, (all those Chicago Blues guys grew up in rural Mississippi) and then popularized/"rockified" by white British Invasion bands/musicians (Eric Clapton, Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, etc.) Chicago had a hold on the Blues scene only for a very short term in the 1950s.
Whereas one Motown WAS the center of soul and R&B. One can draw a straight line from Motown to Michael Jackson to contemporary R&B artists.
And Motown didn't "invent" soul - there was northern soul throughout the Upper Midwest and East Coast, and tons of southern labels like Stax in Memphis (Otis Redding, Booker T, Wilson Pickett, Sam and Dave). Motown is a record label, not a genre. Chicago blues was distinct and far more influential on the world scene (Howlin Wolf/Muddy Waters enormous impact on rnr) than Motown. I'm a fan of both, but like I said previously, you are overstating Motown in both impact and uniqueness, and heavily understating the blues. I'm on your side, though - because of what's happened to Detroit over the past few decades it's become a punchline and people forget that it was at one time one of the great American cities from economic to cultural impact.
Well it's a mall. Malls are inherently designed to attract people from several different areas (usually suburbs). And it's such a massive mall that it definitely could draw from suburbs with both high Hispanic and high Asian populations. Schaumburg itself has a fairly high Asian population if I remember correctly. So while anecdotal, it's not outside of the realm of possibility. It's been a good while since I've been to Schaumburg but I do remember Woodfield Mall hosting a highly diverse range of patrons.
Morton Grove I thought was the suburb with the highest Asian percentage at 28% Also obviously Armour Square (Chinatown) which is 72% Asian.
Yeah, I'm not super familiar with Chicagoland but I've never seen anything compared to what I've seen in Los Angeles. The suburb where I work (Alhambra) is 55% Asian and about 35% Hispanic and 10% white.
OK, yeah, I was thinking more of the actual urban ethnic enclaves of Chinatown, Argyle Street, and Devon Ave.
I didn't know Morton Grove was that high, I guess I learned something!
And Motown didn't "invent" soul - there was northern soul throughout the Upper Midwest and East Coast, and tons of southern labels like Stax in Memphis (Otis Redding, Booker T, Wilson Pickett, Sam and Dave). Motown is a record label, not a genre. Chicago blues was distinct and far more influential on the world scene (Howlin Wolf/Muddy Waters enormous impact on rnr) than Motown. I'm a fan of both, but like I said previously, you are overstating Motown in both impact and uniqueness, and heavily understating the blues. I'm on your side, though - because of what's happened to Detroit over the past few decades it's become a punchline and people forget that it was at one time one of the great American cities from economic to cultural impact.
You're right, Chicago Blues had the biggest influence on rock and roll.
Motown had the big influence on Pop/Top 40.
I used to be more into classic rock, still am, but feel some of the "ladies man" qualities of soul/R&B could rub off on me.
That Chicago is not the only city in the Midwest where people drive fast and often times reckless. Like one of the posters said "If you have driven around Detroit at all or some parts of St. Louis you would know better". But Chicago traffic is the worst (in the Midwest).
I can't really speak for Ohio, I'm used to driving in Michigan (mostly Detroit).
Are you insane, your comparing Chicago drivers to St. Louis drivers. OMG
Are you insane, your comparing Chicago drivers to St. Louis drivers. OMG
Your completely missing my point. First of all that quote was from another poster and that wasn't even really a comparison. Second of all, the point I was trying to make was that Chicago is not the only city in the Midwest where people drive fast and reckless.
Your completely missing my point. First of all that quote was from another poster and that wasn't even really a comparison. Second of all, the point I was trying to make was that Chicago is not the only city in the Midwest where people drive fast and reckless.
The fact that you go on Google images to find a picture about my post is quit funny...anyways I asked you to sum it up in which I thought you were agreeing with him. Also st. Louis drivers don't drive fast, are you serious, come on last time I went there it was like 55mph the whole way to my destination-_-
And Motown didn't "invent" soul - there was northern soul throughout the Upper Midwest and East Coast, and tons of southern labels like Stax in Memphis (Otis Redding, Booker T, Wilson Pickett, Sam and Dave). Motown is a record label, not a genre. Chicago blues was distinct and far more influential on the world scene (Howlin Wolf/Muddy Waters enormous impact on rnr) than Motown. I'm a fan of both, but like I said previously, you are overstating Motown in both impact and uniqueness, and heavily understating the blues. I'm on your side, though - because of what's happened to Detroit over the past few decades it's become a punchline and people forget that it was at one time one of the great American cities from economic to cultural impact.
1. In 1886 Carl Benz made the first automobile. He was from Germany. I won't use the word "ironically", because it isn't ironic, but Eisenhower also got the idea for an American freeway system from the (Nazi) Germans.
2. Detroit never made assembly line cars that kicked off the "everyone can own a car in America" mindset that still seems to resonate today. The suburbs of Detroit handle(d) that.
3. I lost my virginity nine (9) years before I got married... in the backseat of a mass produced automobile. So, hooray to Detroit's cultural legacy!... and for the premarital sex and unplanned pregnancies that ensued!
Not only that, but the blues was a far more important and popular contribution to music than Motown. It's true that Detroit has added (and continues to add) much to our nation's culture, and that this is often forgotten in the rush to point fingers at its decay, but let's not overdo it here.
in what universe has blues been more important and influential that Motown (basically the beginning of Pop culture)?
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