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The term title also does not accuratly describe Jesus role as Saviour of the world.
Sure it does. Are you saying there are other Saviours? No, he is the only one, so He is 'The Saviour'.
He is the Saviour, and he saves. He extends His hand to people, and all you need to do is take it. Sadly many turn away, just like in the parable of the wedding.
Sure it does. Are you saying there are other Saviours? No, he is the only one, so He is 'The Saviour'.
He is the Saviour, and he saves. He extends His hand to people, and all you need to do is take it. Sadly many turn away, just like in the parable of the wedding.
My Dad saved me from a choking death, so at that moment he was my saviour, yes indeed.
If all sins are not atoned for Gods word returns void, if everyone cannot be saved, then Gods word returns void because those are two things in scripture God sent his son to do.
God sent his son to be the atonement for sins and all sins are atoned for, the passage speaks the same way for Jesus being sent to be saviour of the world, so the world is saved.
Just like if someone paid my heating bill for me I might not find out about till after it happened.
I want people to know as soon as possible, but whether someone listens to me or not at the time it doesn't change what Jesus did.
When someone believes then they understand what was already done, whosover, yes, whosoever, at any time can come to this knowledge of truth.
Yes, he is the President whether people reject him or not. However, that does not mean everyone will agree with his policies. The title of Saviour does not mean the Saviour will save everyone, it just says He is the Saviour. There are no other Saviours but Him. Many people still reject what He has to offer, just like many reject what Obama has to offer. Just like with Obama, who have enemies who try to undermine everything he does, there are people who try to undermine everything Jesus taught.
I understand what you're saying, but that's not really the concept that Paul puts forth. Adam represented mankind in the Garden. Mankind did not ask him to do so. It was a Covenant between Adam and God and mankind suffered it's outcome whether they choose to or not. We all fell in Adam without our consent or agreement.
In like manner, Paul is telling us that Jesus saves the World through His death on the cross. And Jesus did so by Covenant, without the World's consent or agreement. It was a Covenant between Jesus and God.
The natural man will always refuse and resist the Covenant of Grace. By nature, man is faithless toward God. This is why all must be born of the Spirit in order to partake of the Covenant blessings through faith. UR believes (or at least I do) that Christ's death will also accomplish their regeneration of the Spirit (future tense "the many shall be constituted righteous"), and it will happen when the Spirit of Christ chooses to do so.
So, if I read you correctly we walk in and out of salvation on a daily or hourly basis.
What if I use the Lord's name in vain and the F word as I see this huge truck drift into my lane and then I get killed? Do I go to hell?
No, you'd probably go to the hospital or maybe the morgue.
Read this tiring thread. Wish people understood that there are 2 children in every single one of us -- one a child of God, the other, by nature the children of wrath. If you need to find the devil or the anti-Christ, he's as close as your nearest mirror (for everyone). We must all die. Why? To destroy the works of the devil - the natural man.
Sure it does. Are you saying there are other Saviours? No, he is the only one, so He is 'The Saviour'.
He is the Saviour, and he saves. He extends His hand to people, and all you need to do is take it. Sadly many turn away, just like in the parable of the wedding.
And saviours shall come up on mount Zion to judge the mount of Esau; and the kingdom shall be Jehovah's. - Obadiah 1:21
And that through Him everyone who believes [who [a]acknowledges Jesus as his Savior and devotes himself to Him] is absolved (cleared and freed) from every charge from which he could not be justified and freed by the Law of Moses and given right standing with God.
For with the heart a person believes (adheres to, trusts in, and relies on Christ) and so is justified (declared righteous, acceptable to God), and with the mouth he confesses (declares openly and speaks out freely his faith) and confirms [his] salvation.
The Scripture says, No man who believes in Him [who adheres to, relies on, and trusts in Him] will [ever] be put to shame or be disappointed.(A)
[No one] for there is no distinction between Jew and Greek. The same Lord is Lord over all [of us] and He generously bestows His riches upon all who call upon Him [in faith].
For everyone who calls upon the name of the Lord [invoking Him as Lord] will be saved.(B)
Luke 12:49 Amplified Bible, Classic Edition (AMPC)
I have come to cast fire upon the earth, and how I wish that it were already kindled!
Quit taking the Bible out of context… And most importantly get yourself a real Bible… I don’t watch movies anymore but I’ve got a good memory… Have you seen Tommy boy… When he says get yourself a new map. Get yourself a new Bible , Well an old Bible version amplified classic edition!
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You know we are talking about the Saviour of souls here.
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