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Old 01-07-2010, 03:31 PM
 
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They believe in purgatory!!! But nobody in the world, if in a "REAL" purgatory, would turn down the opportunity to be saved!!!
GOD BLESS!!!
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why is that?
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Old 01-07-2010, 04:10 PM
 
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universalism do not believe in hell ,by this they must see the world though rose colored glasses,,,,, Why can they not see the evil in the world ....Who knows ...... Universalisim do not believe that the Lord is eternal here today gone tomorrow.......They reject that Jesus is Lord ....Apostle Paul said that all dark spirit can be discerned by asking the spirit if Jesus is Lord In the Bible if the spirit can not do that than it is false........ For me the only universalism is the acceptance of all ideals that Jesus brought to his faith is universalism or the universal church ...Churches that call them self universal and limit Jesus are a false and rob God of his blessing
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Old 01-07-2010, 04:36 PM
 
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universalism do not believe in hell ,by this they must see the world though rose colored glasses,,,,, Why can they not see the evil in the world ....Who knows ...... Universalisim do not believe that the Lord is eternal here today gone tomorrow.......They reject that Jesus is Lord ....Apostle Paul said that all dark spirit can be discerned by asking the spirit if Jesus is Lord In the Bible if the spirit can not do that than it is false........ For me the only universalism is the acceptance of all ideals that Jesus brought to his faith is universalism or the universal church ...Churches that call them self universal and limit Jesus are a false and rob God of his blessing
I'm a universalist and I don't see this WORLD in a good light at all. But I see dimmly the World to come and now is - the Kingdom of Heaven and it appears very delightful. I'm sure that God will replace this present evil world with that one. And I don't reject that Jesus is Lord. In fact, I believe that He will accomplish His mission which is to eradicate sin (something eternal torment believers do not believe in for they believe the sinner will always exist).

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Old 01-07-2010, 08:52 PM
 
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Universalism is a doctrine ... It is cross denominational. You wont find many southern baptists universalists im almost certain, but youd be surprised how many Christians from various denominational backgrounds actually in their hearts believe in universal reconciliation, especially among students in theological seminary ... Unfortunately many of them will not confess to it publicly because of their fear of being ostracized from their community of believers.

The interesting thing is tha the word Catholic means universal ... I have considered that before Rome and the Latin west took control of Christianity, the use of the word catholic to describe the christian community was a reference to the fact that most Christians in the early church believed in universal salvation, the true message of the gospel Christs paying the price for the sin of the whole creation.
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Old 01-07-2010, 09:35 PM
 
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universalism do not believe in hell ,by this they must see the world though rose colored glasses,,,,, Why can they not see the evil in the world ....Who knows ......
Of course we see evil in the world.

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Universalisim do not believe that the Lord is eternal here today gone tomorrow.......
The Lord is eternal.

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They reject that Jesus is Lord ....
Jesus is King of kings and Lord of lords.

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Apostle Paul said that all dark spirit can be discerned by asking the spirit if Jesus is Lord In the Bible if the spirit can not do that than it is false........
Jesus is Lord, sent by the Father to die and take away the sin of the world.

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For me the only universalism is the acceptance of all ideals that Jesus brought to his faith is universalism or the universal church ...Churches that call them self universal and limit Jesus are a false and rob God of his blessing
We don't limit Jesus. Jesus is Savior of the world. All will bow before Him and worship Him.
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Old 01-07-2010, 10:52 PM
 
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universalism do not believe in hell ,by this they must see the world though rose colored glasses,,,,, Why can they not see the evil in the world ....Who knows ...... Universalisim do not believe that the Lord is eternal here today gone tomorrow.......They reject that Jesus is Lord ....Apostle Paul said that all dark spirit can be discerned by asking the spirit if Jesus is Lord In the Bible if the spirit can not do that than it is false........ For me the only universalism is the acceptance of all ideals that Jesus brought to his faith is universalism or the universal church ...Churches that call them self universal and limit Jesus are a false and rob God of his blessing
You don't have a clue as to what you are talking about.

You should take the time to actually understand something before you attempt to criticize it.

What you are doing in so many words is something like writing a movie review about a movie you have never actually even seen.
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Old 01-08-2010, 03:04 PM
 
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The only universal church I believe is the Holy Catholic church, Which is one baptism through, Lord Father, Jesus Christ and his Holy Spirit . This universal Church is the church of Roman Catholic, Eastern Catholic churches, Protestant churches, Evangelical, Penticostal, Baptist, and all churches that baptize their people in the water baptising and Fire Baptising in the Holy Spirit. This is the body of Christ. Liberal Churches that have the baptizing of the Holy Spirit are in this Holy Universal Churches or means the same as Holy Catholic Church. If Unitarianism church baptise their people with the fire of Holy Spirit and water baptizing though the name of Father God, Jesus,and the Holy spirit than they are is this Holy Catholic Church......See Catholic is not only Roman Catholic , Catholic means universal ...... In the Bible at John 17:11, 21 Jesus prayed that his church would be one Church that they be one like Jesus and his father in Heaven are one so the world would see this as the heart of Heaven
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