Can one be pro-abortion and Catholic at the same time? (believer, minority)
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Ultimately, this thread was questioning if a catholic can be pro-abortion. The pope has declared it to be a mortal sin...there is no argument about this if you're a catholic.
If you want to be pro-abortion, don't call yourself catholic. It's that simple.
Ultimately, this thread was questioning if a catholic can be pro-abortion. The pope has declared it to be a mortal sin...there is no argument about this if you're a catholic.
If you want to be pro-abortion, don't call yourself catholic. It's that simple.
ahh the "Pro-Choice" equates to "Pro-Abortion" argument...
Declaring that someone have a choice in something does not equate the declaring person to be "pro" anything. Sorry it doesn't work that way.
I'm pro-choice when it comes to religion. If you want to worship a blindfolded penguin with a gimp wing.. so be it. Thats your choice. By giving you that choice it doesn't mean in any way that I want you to worship a blindfolded penguin with a gimp wing.
I think.. just my opinion here.. that probably in the next 5-10 years there will be concessions from each side of the issue. The issue seems to have both sides actually speaking intellectually to each other instead of just shouting insults.
The thing is.. the religious right (whatever religion) has got to find a way to remove any sense of "religion" from the abortion discussion. Most Americans don't give two cents what the Pope has to say on the issue.
Ultimately, this thread was questioning if a catholic can be pro-abortion. The pope has declared it to be a mortal sin...there is no argument about this if you're a catholic.
If you want to be pro-abortion, don't call yourself catholic. It's that simple.
If you believe that it's something that can be decided by the individual person then you believe it is not intrinsically wrong.
If you are "pro-choice", then you are "pro-abortion" and you cannot be catholic.
Deal with it--either give up one or the other.
Except for the argument I provided in the rest of my post you didn't quote. So by "there is no counter-argument" I'll just assume you know there is one.
No I don't believe it to be "intrinsically wrong" in certain instances. Thats right. And? It still doesn't mean I'm for people to do it.
For instance.. I'm pro-choice when it comes to guns. However, I don't wish for everyone to go out and get a gun. Its really easy logic to follow.
So far I've proved my argument using blindfolded penguins with gimp arms and I've proved it with guns.
Deal with it.
I'm not Catholic but from my understanding if the Pope believes it to be wrong then I'm not sure a person can be "pro-abortion" whatever that is.
However, they could vote representatives in place that are pro-choice.
Except for the argument I provided in the rest of my post you didn't quote. So by "there is no counter-argument" I'll just assume you know there is one.
Ya know...I'm not even catholic. But I can tell you that to be catholic, you are subject to the pope. He calls the shots. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.
He has said abortion is evil. That's just the way it is. You can try to justify it any way you want--but to do so means going against the leader of your church. That's just the way it is.
I'm sorry....I don't like fake people. If you're going to claim to be catholic--then be catholic. Don't try to have your cake and eat it too.
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