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Old 08-29-2022, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Mexico
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Then do it Dave and don't blame God like scientist and pyschologist whine they don't have possibilities and everything is decided already you have all the time t'ill your death to save your family and get them baptized ! And have time instead of you writting go on A boat or do your dream stop making excuses like the world and be Jesus and live your freedom to choose and God lets make decision like him over destiny but ask him and put him first and your dream will come true !
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Old 08-29-2022, 08:23 AM
 
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Then do it Dave and don't blame God like scientist and pyschologist whine they don't have possibilities and everything is decided already you have all the time t'ill your death to save your family and get them baptized ! And have time instead of you writting go on A boat or do your dream stop making excuses like the world and be Jesus and live your freedom to choose and God lets make decision like him over destiny but ask him and put him first and your dream will come true !
If you knew the reason why God created the universe, and all that is in it, this would make sense to you. But until then you remain in the dark.
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Old 08-29-2022, 09:08 AM
 
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Yes I do and it ebcause he loves to create and leave uncertatanty A possibility and shows he lets things free and he doesn't control all to show he is fair and to create life is why He made the Universe to make beings know of him and worship him. So they can live he's stories and his life giving creations to be happy just like he wants us in the garden ! We are given the chance to live and know we exist and know he is great because he gave it to us and not wasting time. questioning him he is abd or good and love him for who he is ! A friend and father for all nope Dave you don't atest to what you do . Your like from the book the little prince !


One man named everything and said it belong to him but the prince told of how he took care his items and that relationship he ahd with them ! The man who anmed everything and said it belong to him coulnd't answer back like the prince could becuase it never belong to him any of what he named !


So no Dave live your relationship be happy and go find yor purpose in life becuase if you ask you haven't yet I pray you do and stop judging God, Only God judges God and only himself can judge himself not us we are only animals !
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Old 08-29-2022, 10:35 AM
 
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Yes I do and it ebcause he loves to create and leave uncertatanty A possibility and shows he lets things free and he doesn't control all to show he is fair and to create life is why He made the Universe to make beings know of him and worship him. So they can live he's stories and his life giving creations to be happy just like he wants us in the garden ! We are given the chance to live and know we exist and know he is great because he gave it to us and not wasting time. questioning him he is abd or good and love him for who he is ! A friend and father for all nope Dave you don't atest to what you do . Your like from the book the little prince !


One man named everything and said it belong to him but the prince told of how he took care his items and that relationship he ahd with them ! The man who anmed everything and said it belong to him coulnd't answer back like the prince could becuase it never belong to him any of what he named !


So no Dave live your relationship be happy and go find yor purpose in life becuase if you ask you haven't yet I pray you do and stop judging God, Only God judges God and only himself can judge himself not us we are only animals !
Study to find out why God created. Then you will know enough to adjust your opinions about the matter.
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Old 08-29-2022, 10:47 AM
 
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jesus truth



Yes everyone loves darkness rather than light, everyone by nature. Listen to scripture Jn 3:19

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

Thats you and I by nature, though you will deny it !
You have your Calvin glasses on. Try to take them off for a bit.

First, something Luther and Calvin didn't understand about is the Jews and how Jesus came first for them. Not all Jews, but the lost sheep of Israel. Lost sheep are the Jews who had faith in God before Jesus.

See Jesus was coming to make a new covenant that would be based on faith. Not all Jews had faith because the law was not based on it, it was based on the works of the law which are the purification works.

So the Jews who already had faith in God before Jesus came, those Jews now had to go through Jesus to remain God's...they were God's and now they had to believe in Jesus to remain God's. These Jews would hear what Jesus was saying and be drawn to him because they recognized what he was saying as the words of God.

The Jews who did not already have faith in God before Jesus came, they were cut off and hardened so that while Jesus spoke they could not hear and understand and be saved. Jesus came first for the Jews who already had faith in God they were the lost sheep. The Jews that were cut off and hardened and could not believe because they were hardened, they would be used to help get Jesus crucified as was the plan for salvation before the creation of anything.

So when Jesus came to whoever did believe, they would not perish...that is the lost sheep. Jesus told his disciples not to go to the Samaritans and Gentiles and, even though many of them heard Jesus and had faith in him, it was not yet time for them to be saved because those people were disobedient to God under the first covenant, for they never entered the covenant with God and did the purification works as God required, so the Samaritans and Gentiles might have had faith in Jesus when they heard him, but Jesus didn't die yet and so enforce the new covenant, the new testament with new laws. Jesus had to shed his blood to make the new covenant.

The Samaritans and Gentiles would get to be saved by having faith in Jesus and that Jesus' blood and not the blood of lambs purified them. They still had to obey Jesus and repent of their sins, they just didn't have to sacrifice animals anymore and be circumcised and do all the other purification works of the law.

Jesus said when he is crucified he would draw all men to him. That means all could come to him to be saved, even the cut off faithless Jews and the disobedient Samaritans and Gentiles.


16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.


That is about the men who would not come to the light.




20For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.



That is about people in darkness that want more out of life than to just do evil.
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Old 08-29-2022, 10:50 AM
 
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jesus truth



You have been shown to be in error in all these matters.

You have not shown your beliefs from the scriptures.

I hope you keep discussing with me because I want you to see the truth.

Some people will never give up their beliefs though, for they don't want to humble themselves and they don't want to give up what they spent so much time studying and believing.

They should throw it all away though for God's Truth.
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Old 08-29-2022, 10:52 AM
 
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For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.” Philippians 2:13 (KJV 1900)

“The preparations of the heart in man, And the answer of the tongue, is from the LORD.” Proverbs 16:1 (KJV 1900)

“A man’s heart deviseth his way: But the LORD directeth his steps.” Proverbs 16:9 (KJV 1900)

“There are many devices in a man’s heart; Nevertheless the counsel of the LORD, that shall stand.” Proverbs 19:21 (KJV 1900)

“O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: It is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.” Jeremiah 10:23 (KJV 1900)
Those scriptures are about people who believe and obey God.
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Old 08-29-2022, 10:54 AM
 
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Those scriptures are about people who believe and obey God.
Just saying, salvation is forever not based on wood, hay, or stubble works of the self-righteous.
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Old 08-29-2022, 11:03 AM
 
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Just saying, salvation is forever not based on wood, hay, or stubble works of the self-righteous.
We have to obey Jesus to get saved and to stay saved.
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Old 08-29-2022, 11:16 AM
 
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We have to obey Jesus to get saved and to stay saved.
This makes you, not Jesus the savior. It is salvation by works that cannot save anyone. “Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.” Galatians 3:21 (KJV 1900)

Yet you turn the gospel into law for the self-righteous to save themselves thereby.
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