Praying to Mary and Saints................ (Jesus, Kingdom, worship, Isaiah)
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Your assertion that your religion or belief system is better is rooted in ignorance.
No religion is better than others. I admire Mormons and Jews even if their religion is different. I also have great admiration for Protestants.
You sound just like the people Jesus mentioned in the Sermon on the Mount,
This is not about Catholic or other denominations but about right or wrong doctrine. It is written that they who worship God must worship in Spirit and in Truth/doctrine/proper teachings of our Lord. I may have been brought up Protestant but there are many flavors of that but when I came to Christ, I learned it was not about denominations but about the Spirit and Truth of Christ. If it is not about that than one is yet carnal in their religion.
1COR 3:3 "For you are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are you not carnal, and walk as men?
1COR 3:4 For while one says, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are you not carnal?
1COR 3:5 Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom you believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?"
Ought not a man to say I am of Christ [not Protestant nor Catholic] and here is what He says.
Your assertion that your religion or belief system is better is rooted in ignorance.
No religion is better than others. I admire Mormons and Jews even if their religion is different. I also have great admiration for Protestants.
You sound just like the people Jesus mentioned in the Sermon on the Mount,
DRA Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith to me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven: but he that doth the will of my Father who is in heaven, he shall enter into the kingdom of heaven.
This is not about Catholic or other denominations but about right or wrong doctrine. It is written that they who worship God must worship in Spirit and in Truth/doctrine/proper teachings of our Lord. I may have been brought up Protestant but there are many flavors of that but when I came to Christ, I learned it was not about denominations but about the Spirit and Truth of Christ. If it is not about that than one is yet carnal in their religion.
1COR 3:3 "For you are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are you not carnal, and walk as men?
1COR 3:4 For while one says, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are you not carnal?
1COR 3:5 Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom you believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?"
Ought not a man to say I am of Christ [not Protestant nor Catholic] and here is what He says.
The Bible is a spiritual guide and not to be taken literally.
A Christian is in Christ not in Mary. We are to pray through/by the Holy Spirit because Jesus gave Him to us as the only medium of communication to God. Therefor He who blasphemes the Holy Spirit has nullified [not saying anyone here has but simply explaining] the only means of direct communication with God. Every other way is bizarre because it is seeking a medium other than Christ. It is written that we are not to seek mediums because Christ is the only one.
Praying to Mary or others may not be blasphemy for some because they do it in ignorance but it is a mistake and useless except that one might find human comfort in it but it will not answer prayer. True prayer is of the Spirit and answered by the Spirit. He shows the things of God to us.
I reminisce about my mother and have good thoughts of Mary being an example of motherhood and blessed because of her faith but that is all. No one but God answers prayers and only because of what Jesus did for us. He provided Atonement so that we can access God directly in the good times and in our bad times.
He answers us by the Comforter who is also called the Spirit of Supplication and Spirit of Truth. No one on the earth or in Heaven holds these titles as the intercessor and to answer prayer because the Spirit is Christ in His Glorified state of being.
Fortunately God is not anal or jealous. Therefore, God hears all prayers.
I cannot imagine an insecure petty God that will ignore the Catholics that pray to Mary. If your God is like that then you have a serious problem in your theology.
DRA Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith to me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven: but he that doth the will of my Father who is in heaven, he shall enter into the kingdom of heaven.
The Bible is a spiritual guide and not to be taken literally.
(YLT) for God did so love the world,
that His Son--the only begotten--He gave,
that every one who is believing in him may not perish, but may have life age-during.
(YLT) for God did so love the world,
that His Son--the only begotten--He gave,
that every one who is believing in him may not perish, but may have life age-during.
I can't take that any way but literally.
Sometimes the literal and spiritual meaning are the same. But, ultimately it is the message.
Fortunately God is not anal or jealous. Therefore, God hears all prayers.
I cannot imagine an insecure petty God that will ignore the Catholics that pray to Mary. If your God is like that then you have a serious problem in your theology.
Based on what ..... because you have an edict saying so?
Then to throw accusations that God is insecure \ petty ... oh that's good.
John 8:47 "Whoever belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.”
Would you care to be told what God says ...
John 9:31 We know that God does not listen to sinners. He listens to the godly person who does his will.
Proverbs 15:29The Lord is far from the wicked, but he hears the prayer of the righteous
Based on what ..... because you have an edict saying so?
Then to throw accusations that God is insecure \ petty ... oh that's good.
John 8:47 "Whoever belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.”
Would you care to be told what God says ...
John 9:31 We know that God does not listen to sinners. He listens to the godly person who does his will.
Proverbs 15:29The Lord is far from the wicked, but he hears the prayer of the righteous
So you think those that pray to Mary are sinners and not righteous. You are incorrect! Many folks that are devoted to the virgin are holy and very righteous.
Why are you so concerned if other Christians have a different style of worship?
I ask again: Do you think God is anal, petty, or jealous?
Fortunately God is not anal or jealous. Therefore, God hears all prayers.
I cannot imagine an insecure petty God that will ignore the Catholics that pray to Mary. If your God is like that then you have a serious problem in your theology.
That has nothing to do with it. Your understanding of jealous is as far as the earth is from Heaven. Of coarse God is not anal nor insecure but Glory belongs to God and not another and He defends it for His saints sake against all rivalry as a good husband should defend against rivalry for his wife.
You ought rather to say God is not intimidated by another but He is jealous and for good reason; to protect His own from ravinous wolfs in sheeps clothing who would try to steal the Glory even if they do it in ignorance. The Bible and the Spirit define who God is not you nor I.
Definition of JEALOUS
1 a: intolerant of rivalry or unfaithfulness
IS 42:8 "I am the LORD: that is My name: and My glory I will not give to another, neither My praise to graven images."
IS 42:13 "The LORD shall go forth as a mighty man, He shall stir up jealousy like a man of war: He shall cry, yea, roar; He shall prevail against his enemies." He shall take what belongs to Him!
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