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Old 11-17-2013, 03:25 PM
 
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I've been mentoring a young man 23 about being a man of integrity and faith.

He barely graduated from high school and then got into trouble and spent almost two-years in prison. He subsequently got out, married to a school teacher and they have a baby. He has also managed to land a good, college-level job, that he's held for the last two years. (He is clean-cut and very well spoken).

The problem is that he lied on his resume and applications about both his education and prison experience. His philosophy is that, 'As long as he's honest at work and does the job as well or better than the college-educated folks he works with, nobody is hurt by his deception.'

How would you counsel this young man?

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Old 11-17-2013, 03:42 PM
 
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As a Christian, I always counsel Christians to live within the law. But you didn't say whether this man is a Christian. IMHO, the first step in dealing with someone like this is to share the basic Gospel message, and then take it from there. "Being a man of integrity", doesn't do anyone any good without faith in Jesus Christ, and repentance for their sins.
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Old 11-17-2013, 03:47 PM
 
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Just get the man to repent to Jesus for lying on his resume, and pray supplementary prayers with the man to ask Jesus for a plan for the mans life and the job were he works ..... Then do not tell the employer of this man the truth of His past , as God will do that if it is necessary as the man must repent and let it go to God , plant a seed of expectation to the works of Jesus expecting the best for the man .....See Lord Jesus is of a Higher court than all
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Old 11-17-2013, 03:48 PM
 
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As a Christian, I always counsel Christians to live within the law. But you didn't say whether this man is a Christian. IMHO, the first step in dealing with someone like this is to share the basic Gospel message, and then take it from there. "Being a man of integrity", doesn't do anyone any good without faith in Jesus Christ, and repentance for their sins.
That's a big part of what I've been working with him on. He claims to have received Christ as a child and to have a belief in God, but, that hasn't been a big part of his life since then.... so I'm working with him on the foundational aspects of the Gospel and his faith.
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Old 11-17-2013, 03:57 PM
 
Location: New England
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I've been mentoring a young man 23 about being a man of integrity and faith.

He barely graduated from high school and then got into trouble and spent almost two-years in prison. He subsequently got out, married to a school teacher and they have a baby. He has also managed to land a good, college-level job, that he's held for the last two years. (He is clean-cut and very well spoken).

The problem is that he lied on his resume and applications about both his education and prison experience. His philosophy is that, 'As long as he's honest at work and does the job as well or better than the college-educated folks he works with, nobody is hurt by his deception.'

How would you counsel this young man?
What do you want him to do ?.
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Old 11-17-2013, 04:32 PM
 
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Tell him to continue moving forward, lest you condemn him for his past?
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Old 11-17-2013, 04:36 PM
 
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What do you want him to do ?.
I'm really not sure. Perhaps nothing, except recognize that just because a person can do something and get away with it, doesn't make it the right thing to do. Of course, there is also the question of the potential future consequences of being 'found-out', but, I somewhat agree with 'hljc's' recognition that God can and likely will deal with the situation.

In any case, there are a lot of potential approaches to this, which is why I'm asking for advice.
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Old 11-17-2013, 04:37 PM
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If all else fails tell him - what does it profit a man if he gains the whole world yet loses his soul - repent or be cast into hell fire. That might put the fear of God in him.
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Old 11-17-2013, 05:08 PM
 
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I've been mentoring a young man 23 about being a man of integrity and faith.

He barely graduated from high school and then got into trouble and spent almost two-years in prison. He subsequently got out, married to a school teacher and they have a baby. He has also managed to land a good, college-level job, that he's held for the last two years. (He is clean-cut and very well spoken).

The problem is that he lied on his resume and applications about both his education and prison experience. His philosophy is that, 'As long as he's honest at work and does the job as well or better than the college-educated folks he works with, nobody is hurt by his deception.'

How would you counsel this young man?
The commandment is:
"Thou shall not make false testimony against thy neighbor." Some how people misunderstand that to mean lying period, but it isn't, instead it's about lying in a court of law about a member of your country.
So going by that interpretation of the commandment he has not done any thing wrong, and further if it is to feed that baby and it's mother then I don't see any thing wrong with it.
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Old 11-17-2013, 05:38 PM
 
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If he is not a Christian, leave the lying alone for now. Won't do any good to deal with it now.

If he is a Christian, he should confess to his boss at some point.
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