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Old 03-21-2012, 10:16 AM
 
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When Jesus spoke in The Letters to The 7 Churches.
About being Overcomers?

Not once did He rebuke them for as not being good enough Soul Winners.

Not once did He counsel them about getting people saved.

Not once was He concerned about how big their assemblies were.

- But His concern of rebuke was about
their 'False Doctrine' 'false Apostles, a false prophet and those who say they are Jews but lie.

But Sunday after Sunday Pastors preach and preach and teach and rebuke the Churches for not being good enough soul winner to getting people saved.
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Old 03-21-2012, 10:36 AM
 
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When Jesus spoke in The Letters to The 7 Churches.
About being Overcomers?

Not once did He rebuke them for as not being good enough Soul Winners.

Not once did He counsel them about getting people saved.

Not once was He concerned about how big their assemblies were.

- But His concern of rebuke was about
their 'False Doctrine' 'false Apostles, a false prophet and those who say they are Jews but lie.

But Sunday after Sunday Pastors preach and preach and teach and rebuke the Churches for not being good enough soul winner to getting people saved.
True.
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Old 03-21-2012, 11:20 AM
 
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most equate numbers with spirituality if it is a big church it must be good. if a person is bringing people to church alot then they are seen as better christians. I believe it is our carnal side of us. we must see in order to accept that it is good. no different than any corporation, if no money is made they must go back and change their plans. The church does the same thing, it will lower its standards in order to bring people in.
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Old 03-21-2012, 11:27 AM
 
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most equate numbers with spirituality if it is a big church it must be good. if a person is bringing people to church alot then they are seen as better christians. I believe it is our carnal side of us. we must see in order to accept that it is good. no different than any corporation, if no money is made they must go back and change their plans. The church does the same thing, it will lower its standards in order to bring people in.
True, sad.
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Old 03-21-2012, 07:09 PM
 
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"Personal evangelism", as it is defined by most evangelical churches today, is an incredibly minor or possibly even absent theme in the epistles. Interesting.
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Old 03-21-2012, 08:29 PM
 
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When Jesus spoke in The Letters to The 7 Churches.
About being Overcomers?

Not once did He rebuke them for as not being good enough Soul Winners.

Not once did He counsel them about getting people saved.

Not once was He concerned about how big their assemblies were.

- But His concern of rebuke was about
their 'False Doctrine' 'false Apostles, a false prophet and those who say they are Jews but lie.

But Sunday after Sunday Pastors preach and preach and teach and rebuke the Churches for not being good enough soul winner to getting people saved.

I believe that too many pastors are too concerned with making their church bigger and fuller. A church should be in the business of running themselves OUT of business. They were never meant to be "clinging vines."

Churches' primary purpose is to bring us to God. Once we have Him we do not "need" the churches. They hand us over to God and should be more than happy to get out of the way. Hence...running themselves out of business, not keeping herd over us in some type of control.
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Old 03-21-2012, 08:42 PM
 
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Yes, to you both.

I find it interesting that of the Church whom Jesus said
He would make The Pillars of New Jerusalem?

He said, they "Have A Little Strength'! - Rev.3:8

A little strength?

How many Pastor's despise the thought
of a Church with a little strenght?
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Old 03-21-2012, 08:53 PM
 
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Revelationwriter, This seems to be your fourth new thread started in the last hour ... No offense intended, but, your point seems a little obscure and unclear in all four.

What's really on your mind tonight?
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Old 03-21-2012, 09:11 PM
 
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Just fishing...
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Old 07-15-2014, 06:33 AM
 
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- Pastors Need To Stop Rebuking Us To Repent.

They Need To Repent For their Sermons Against Us.
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