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View Poll Results: Will Chicago see a...
Gain 2%+ 11 28.21%
Stagnant -2%-1.9% 20 51.28%
Loss >-2% 5 12.82%
No clue 3 7.69%
Voters: 39. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-02-2010, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Nort Seid
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If you are going to insist that EVERY Census be done exactly as the first one was done then you are also saying that Indians should not be counted and that African Americans are counted as 3/5ths of a person.
Thanks for beating me to the punch on that one.
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Old 04-02-2010, 02:13 PM
 
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Libertarianism worked quite well in 1776. It's doesn't work in the modern world.
I am only libertarian on the Federal level of politics. But I am actually a hardcore socialist when it comes to local politics, believe it or not. I actually believe that if small municipalities want to set up socialist style arrangements, then they should be able to. But the Federal government was not set up to be run like that. It was not meant to be set up as a giant socialist empire. If states or counties want to do that, then, fine.

Socialist economies work better on small scales. The US, as a whole, is just simply too large of a macroeconomic entity, to apply generic socialist style policies to. Those type of policies may work well in iceland or Switzerland, but not in the US as a whole. It just doesnt work. And when i say it doesnt work, I mean it is against the Laws of Physics for it to work. I am coming from the school of thought that economics is a function of the Laws of Physics. The the Laws of Supply and Demand are functions of Chemistry and Physics and no human laws or good intentions can revoke these Laws, and therefore macroeconomic engineering, while founded in the best of intentions, is usually unsustainable and has unintended (negative) consequences.
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Old 04-02-2010, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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He must be spending some time in the City-Data "Politics and Other Controversies" forum. That's become crack-pot central.
I haven't been able to look in there for a long time. Its a cesspool of stupid, with caplocks.
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Old 04-02-2010, 06:18 PM
 
Location: International Spacestation
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who cares
The US Census does.
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Old 04-02-2010, 06:28 PM
 
Location: International Spacestation
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More people need to fill it out, but I think the Chicago Post Office carries at least some of the blame for the low response. I filled out my Census the day I got it and had it in the mail by 8 AM the next morning. Today I came home to find another Census form with a letter reminding me how important it is to fill it out and send it in.
That same thing happened to me.
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Old 04-03-2010, 09:38 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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Help me out here, if our original government was setup to act as Libertarians desire it to, then how in the hell did one man own another man as property? The only way I'm aware of a Libertarian accepting this owned man as property is if that man gave up his rights and sold himself to the owner. If that's the case, I doubt any slave ever SOLD HIMSELF to be a slave. One old white guy paid another old white guy to own this strong black man. Doesn't seem like the slave was ever paid in any form FOR GIVING UP HIS LIFE.

Indentured servants, completely different story!
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Old 06-09-2010, 10:06 PM
 
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Default how big does a census tract have to be for rankings?

apparently, Prince George's County, MD, DeKalb county GA, and Olympia Fields, IL have been frequently recognized as the highest income place with a Black majority (50% or more). the morgan park neighborhood in chicago is 60% black with an avg. income of 64K. the beverly woods subdivision in Morgan park is 58% black with an avg. income of 78K (as of 08). why aren't smaller census tracts ranked? MP has more middle and upper middle class blacks IMO and statistically than Olympia Fields - is MP and its subdivisions ignored because its not a large county like DeKalb or a suburb like OF?
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Old 06-10-2010, 06:51 PM
 
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Not many people make rankings of census tracts. Who, other than a geeky geographer, would even know what a census tract is or where to look up the boundaries? Most people find municipalities or counties much more understandable.
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Old 07-12-2010, 11:38 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Default Census 2010

Yes, it's a population thread, if you're going to complain, I honestly don't care to read it.

With that said, what do we honestly believe will be the results of the 2010 Census? Projections have the city loosing, albeit a small one, but I feel the city has grown. What do you all think? Has Chicago boarded the train towards steady population growth, or will the city continue to see small decreases?
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Old 07-13-2010, 08:27 AM
 
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Ugh, well considering that almost everyone I know just blindly threw the thing away and ignored it - they're probably going to have some severe undercounting. There's no way they're going to be home or answer a door for a random person either. I yelled at them all....so stupid.

I'm assuming there's probably at least a 10-15% undercount once it's all over.
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