Kenwood and hyde park (Chicago, Lincoln: apartment, renting, buy)

[Avengerfire]

Originally Posted by ajolotl

but the neighborhood around it isn't.

As of the 2000 census Kenwood the community is 76.1 black alone and Hyde Park the community is 38.1 black alone. Sorry Charlie, but that constitutes a heavy black presence.

Everytime I am around Kenwood academy all I see are blacks (even long after school is out.)

[ajolotl]

That includes all black areas of Kenwood that are relatively far west of and north of the school. The part of Kenwood that the school is in is much more balanced. I've never seen mostly blacks on the street there. That's 51st and Hyde park Blvd.

Originally Posted by Avengerfire

As of the 2000 census Kenwood the community is 76.1 black alone and Hyde Park the community is 38.1 Black alone. Sorry Charlie, but that constitutes a heavy black presence.

Everytime I am around Kenwood academy all I see are blacks (even long after school is out.)

[Avengerfire]

Originally Posted by ajolotl

That includes all black areas of Kenwood that are relatively far west of and north of the school. The part of Kenwood that the school is in is much more balanced. I've never seen mostly blacks on the street there. That's 51st and Hyde park Blvd.

Do you ever go out at night?

[Banx]

Originally Posted by ajolotl

Kenwood is sort of like Morgan Park in that the official neighborhood boundaries cut across very different socio-economic areas, so that stating overall statistics is a little misleading. There is the part of Kenwood that is usually referred to as Hyde Park-Kenwood (like 47th-51st Ellis to the Lake) and then the rest of it (47th to 43rd and also west of Ellis more or less). The part of Kenwood in Hyde Park - Kenwood is that part that most people visit. It is very integrated, much like Hyde Park, and overall extremely prosperous. The rest of Kenwood is relatively poor and predominantly black. The predominantly black part doesn't have a lot of commerce and isn't where people would normally visit and see mostly black people on the street, as you said. Kenwood Academy is on 51st street -- mostly black students but the area is actually very diverse.

Well maybe it is, but it just didn't seem like that when I was there, at least in the same way that Hyde Park appeared, excluding the Kenwood students. There were a couple of strip malls around the general area and they were all full of black people too. Kenwood is still not a very diverse neighborhood, even if they do have a couple of white people spotted around here and there. Hyde Park on the other hand, is very diverse and more or less evenly split.

[ajolotl]

I'm talking about who LIVES there, not who is on the street at night. Anyhow, I'm at 52nd and Cornell two nights a week until 10 (Istria Cafe). It's about 80% white inside. There are white people all over the place. No one who goes there often would say that it's predominantly black except perhaps when Kenwood Aacademy lets out.

Originally Posted by Avengerfire

Do you ever go out at night?

[Banx]

Originally Posted by ajolotl

I'm talking about who LIVES there, not who is on the street at night. Anyhow, I'm at 52nd and Cornell two nights a week until 10 (Istria Cafe). It's about 80% white inside. There are white people all over the place. No one who goes there often would say that it's predominantly black except perhaps when Kenwood Aacademy lets out.

But it is predominantly black, and at a whopping 75%. I might have saw like 2 or 3 white people around some of the local Kenwood stores and strip malls total (ie like the local Walgreens). And while it's a step forward, I really wouldn't call that diverse.

And Manigault in that other post most be smokin somethin crazy to say Kenwood is more diverse than Hyde Park.

[Chicagoland60426]

Originally Posted by ajolotl

What exactly constitutes U of C and where did you get that figure?

Illinois Career Information System - Illinois Schools - The University of Chicago

Click on student body

[ajolotl]

Thanks. I thought you were referring to the neighborhood, not the student body.

Originally Posted by Chicagoland60426

Illinois Career Information System - Illinois Schools - The University of Chicago

Click on student body

[bigslick1]

how is hyde park now? white, black, asian or hispanic in that area now? are they mid class lower class or upper class as in economic?

[Chicagoland60426]

Originally Posted by bigslick1

how is hyde park now? white, black, asian or hispanic in that area now? are they mid class lower class or upper class as in economic?

Here are the 2000 stats
white-44%
black-38%
Asian-11%
Hispanic-4%