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Old 10-29-2022, 11:42 AM
 
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Englewood is three square miles ... Gary is 50 square miles

Gary is also home to interstates 80/94/65/Indiana Toll Road, US routes 12/20, every major freight rail line. It has 14 miles of Lake Michigan waterfront, including a 6-mile beach that is part of the Indiana Dunes National Park, a brand new massive Casino on 80/84, an Indiana University Campus, an airport that is breaking records and is positioned to become Chicagolands 3rd commercial airport....and has the cleanest State Government and lowest taxes in all of Chicagoland.

So yup, Gary is just like Englewood.
Gary is basically a huge Englewood on the Lake with abandoned steel mills. Gary has lost about 12,000 people in the last 10 years. Aint nobody going there.
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Old 10-29-2022, 06:55 PM
 
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Gary is basically a huge Englewood on the Lake with abandoned steel mills. Gary has lost about 12,000 people in the last 10 years. Aint nobody going there.

New homes are popping up all over Miller Beach, hundreds of not thousands of homes are being flipped THROUGHOUT Gary.

The 46403 district of Gary saw substantial population gains in the last ten years, reinvestment is happening all over the city. I'd bet you quite a bit of money that the 2030 census will show solid population growth in Gary, mark my word.

You are obviously incredibly ignorant about the place.
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Old 10-29-2022, 07:02 PM
 
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And your ignorance is on full display...those abandoned steel mills are not abandoned, biggest mill in the country. And Alliance Steel just moved some 100 plus high-paying jobs from Illinois to Gary.

https://www.alliancesteel.net/allian...-headquarters/
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Old 11-02-2022, 07:49 AM
 
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Gary is basically a huge Englewood on the Lake with abandoned steel mills. Gary has lost about 12,000 people in the last 10 years. Aint nobody going there.
I'll take that bet. Gary will continue to lose population and be one of the most dangerous places in the country in 2030.
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Old 11-02-2022, 08:30 AM
 
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Chicago is already one of the most populous cities. I'd say it is risen. Wouldn't an influx of people be better suited for some of the mid-size cities out there?

With any city, there are 3 things. Affordability. Low crime. Lots of things to do. In any place, you might get 2 of them, but it's hard to get all 3.

While crime and disparity are the biggest flaws of Chicago, they're also what's keeping it relatively affordable compared to NYC. If the crime were to vanish, and 2-3 million people suddenly want to flock to Chicago, the prices would be like that of NYC.
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Old 11-02-2022, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Chicago is already one of the most populous cities. I'd say it is risen. Wouldn't an influx of people be better suited for some of the mid-size cities out there?

With any city, there are 3 things. Affordability. Low crime. Lots of things to do. In any place, you might get 2 of them, but it's hard to get all 3.

While crime and disparity are the biggest flaws of Chicago, they're also what's keeping it relatively affordable compared to NYC. If the crime were to vanish, and 2-3 million people suddenly want to flock to Chicago, the prices would be like that of NYC.
If crime in Chicago were low (at the same level as NYC or LA), it would be one of the most popular cities in the US and even nationally. In the 90’s when the city’s crime was somewhat hidden and it didn’t have the reputation that it does now, it was truly the 3rd most popular city. Oprah, MJ, tons of TV shows/movies/talk shows/etc. It had a much bigger and elite feeling. Now it is NYC, LA, and a big gap with Chicago, SF, Boston, Houston, Miami, DC all huddled together, each with their strengths/weaknesses (Chicago’s being its horrible crime reputation). It is no longer the clear 3rd city like it once was. If it ever got it’s crime under control people would flock here.
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Old 11-03-2022, 02:10 PM
 
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If crime in Chicago were low (at the same level as NYC or LA), it would be one of the most popular cities in the US and even nationally. In the 90’s when the city’s crime was somewhat hidden and it didn’t have the reputation that it does now, it was truly the 3rd most popular city. Oprah, MJ, tons of TV shows/movies/talk shows/etc. It had a much bigger and elite feeling. Now it is NYC, LA, and a big gap with Chicago, SF, Boston, Houston, Miami, DC all huddled together, each with their strengths/weaknesses (Chicago’s being its horrible crime reputation). It is no longer the clear 3rd city like it once was. If it ever got it’s crime under control people would flock here.
Oh you mean the city had more notoriety when it had the world's tallest building anchoring a universally regarded top-3 global skyline, the most famous athlete in history and the most popular, wealthiest and influential media personality?

Chicago city for city blows all the ones you mention out of the water and it isn't close even without those distinctions. It's only people subscribing to this postmodern thinking that city borders are arbitrary and irrelevant. MSA or CSA is used to elevate influence, economies, populations, educational institutions, jobs, entertainment, transit etc.

No one in their right mind thinks Boston, Miami, D.C. or San Francisco are in Chicago's class as cities. Chicago is a true urban-behemoth, the second largest contiguous expanse of proper urban scale after New York. San Francisco, Boston, Seattle, D.C., Miami etc. are tiny compared to Chicago with the north-side alone equaling or surpassing their entire city populations or square mileage. 10 miles from downtown Chicago you are still very much in a dense city with mid & high-rise buildings, tons of historic architecture, walkable neighborhoods and transit that still looks and feels like Chicago. 10 miles outside of downtown Boston or San Francisco puts you in the middle of tract housing on cul-de-sacs.
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Old 11-03-2022, 04:34 PM
 
Location: A Place With REAL People
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Man you sure have drunk the Kool-Aid. Keep dreaming your beloved city is all that and a bag of chips as it smolders.
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Old 11-03-2022, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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dcisive, for clarification purposes, please:

WHICH kind of bag of chips???
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Old 11-03-2022, 09:17 PM
 
Location: A Place With REAL People
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Ruffles of course
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