The "Chad" stereotype? (Chicago, Lincoln: neighborhoods, college, restaurants)

[Hiruko]

Originally Posted by EddieOlSkool

I feel North Shore names would be a bit more like Adam or David and last names something that ends with stein, man, or burg.

There are very few Jews in Lake Forest, Lake Bluff, Winnetka, and Kenilworth.

[Larry Siegel]

Originally Posted by Hiruko

There are very few Jews in Lake Forest, Lake Bluff, Winnetka, and Kenilworth.

Actually there are plenty of Jews in Winnetka, but not the other towns.

Chad Syverson is a pretty famous University of Chicago professor. He's the only Chad I know and he is the antithesis of a "Chad."

Oh, and the Chad Mitchell Trio. Chad Mitchell was born in 1936.

Then there's hanging chad, pregnant chad, etc. (remember the 2000 election?).

[MillennialUrbanist]

Originally Posted by EddieOlSkool

1. Who from the North Shore even names their kid Chad?
2. How did this term become so well known in the manosphere as Chad Thundercock and
3. How did Trixie get replaced by Stacy??

1. I don't know anyone people from the North Shore, but I once worked with a guy named Chad, who lived in West Ridge or Lincolnwood (I forgot). He was single, but was seeing someone. He was nothing like Chad Thunder-whats-his-face. In fact, he was a techie type; like me, but we had different roles. We had good times trashing Windows Vista together.

2. Beats me. I didn't get into the Red Pill until 2015, so I don't know the history or etymology behind the term. I do know that PUA, Red Pill's predecessor, used descriptors like "cocky and funny", rather than genericized names like Chad.

3. Trixie sounds more like a "dancer's" name than a regular woman's name. (Chrome even highlights it as a misspelling.) Perhaps it was chosen because it's phonetically similar to Trixie. Or maybe early Red Pillers that started RP as an extension of PUA all had bad experiences with women named Stacy. I actually used to know someone named Stacy in my Meetup group; she wasn't bad, we just had nothing in common.

[jonnynonos]

It's just a lame derogatory name for your run of the mill white college football-loving Big 10 grad.

My problem with it and all the similar names is that you would have to go back until at least the '80s for this kind of person to be considered the "cool" group, or for it to really even be a group. Therefore, the venom with which they are thrown out is usually just an act of self-referential snobbery, which doesn't even ring true or make sense anymore.

There hasn't been a genuine youthful subculture for decades, let alone an oppressed one.

Everyone puts their pants on one leg at a time. People need to get over it.

[EddieOlSkool]

Originally Posted by jonnynonos

It's just a lame derogatory name for your run of the mill white college football-loving Big 10 grad.

My problem with it and all the similar names is that you would have to go back until at least the '80s for this kind of person to be considered the "cool" group, or for it to really even be a group. Therefore, the venom with which they are thrown out is usually just an act of self-referential snobbery, which doesn't even ring true or make sense anymore.

There hasn't been a genuine youthful subculture for decades, let alone an oppressed one.

Everyone puts their pants on one leg at a time. People need to get over it.

Uh...being a Big 10 jock pretty much guarantees you're in the cool group. What exactly has changed since the 80s?

[EddieOlSkool]

Originally Posted by MillennialUrbanist

1. I don't know anyone people from the North Shore, but I once worked with a guy named Chad, who lived in West Ridge or Lincolnwood (I forgot). He was single, but was seeing someone. He was nothing like Chad Thunder-whats-his-face. In fact, he was a techie type; like me, but we had different roles. We had good times trashing Windows Vista together.

2. Beats me. I didn't get into the Red Pill until 2015, so I don't know the history or etymology behind the term. I do know that PUA, Red Pill's predecessor, used descriptors like "cocky and funny", rather than genericized names like Chad.

3. Trixie sounds more like a "dancer's" name than a regular woman's name. (Chrome even highlights it as a misspelling.) Perhaps it was chosen because it's phonetically similar to Trixie. Or maybe early Red Pillers that started RP as an extension of PUA all had bad experiences with women named Stacy. I actually used to know someone named Stacy in my Meetup group; she wasn't bad, we just had nothing in common.

I think Stacy to me just fits that SEC sorority stereotype who dates Chad. Though in another thread someone said the Southern version of Chad would be Chase and I found that quite accurate.

[Haaamburger]

Originally Posted by GoCUBS1

A Chad is often a 30/40-something F*ckboy. But not all Chad's are F*ckboys.
A F*ckboy is late teens/20-something guy of a certain disposition. But not all late teen/20-something guys are F*ckboys.

But I'm just guessing. I think it sounds good though.

Is this urban dictionary now?

[jonnynonos]

Originally Posted by EddieOlSkool

Uh...being a Big 10 jock pretty much guarantees you're in the cool group. What exactly has changed since the 80s?

Because unless you are literally a goth who paints your face, nothing else you do is going to raise an eyebrow or make anyone think you are any "different" than them. There are probably just as many frat members with ironic moustaches as outside fraternities these days, and it's been the same dynamic since at least the 90s. The "alternative" hadn't been seen as "weird" by anyone anywhere since the mid-80s.

The 80s were the last time that anyone was likely to be thought "different" for listening to cutting-edge music etc., and even that is likely more a John Hughes movie trope than anything.

But everyone needs to feel better than someone, and unpretentious, beer-swilling, Lakeview denizens are probably one of the last demographics people feel comfortable being openly contemptuous of.

Knock yourself out, just know it's all about you and the way you want to position yourself in the world more than anything.

[ehanson]

I remember stumbling across the site about 10 years ago and also the Lincoln Park Trixie "Society" thinking it was made with a tounge in cheek tone. While somewhat amusing I wondered what the site creator would think if they ventured to Greenwich, CT or Nantucket during the high season. Seeing how they were satirizing LP and North Shore residents...

Grew up on the North Shore and I didn't know anyone named Chad. I still don't.... I know of our very own Chett Evertt right here on the fourms but I don't think he's a Chad.

I was freinds with a Chase at New Trier though and he was not a "Chad" either despite looking like one. Really nice guy actually who went to med school and worked for Doctor's without Border's after college.

Originally Posted by jonnynonos

It's just a lame derogatory name for your run of the mill white college football-loving Big 10 grad.

My problem with it and all the similar names is that you would have to go back until at least the '80s for this kind of person to be considered the "cool" group, or for it to really even be a group. Therefore, the venom with which they are thrown out is usually just an act of self-referential snobbery, which doesn't even ring true or make sense anymore.

There hasn't been a genuine youthful subculture for decades, let alone an oppressed one.

Everyone puts their pants on one leg at a time. People need to get over it.

Thank you. Agree it's a bit of an outdated stereotype unless you're writing a John Hughes movie script.

[EddieOlSkool]

Originally Posted by jonnynonos

Because unless you are literally a goth who paints your face, nothing else you do is going to raise an eyebrow or make anyone think you are any "different" than them. There are probably just as many frat members with ironic moustaches as outside fraternities these days, and it's been the same dynamic since at least the 90s. The "alternative" hadn't been seen as "weird" by anyone anywhere since the mid-80s.

The 80s were the last time that anyone was likely to be thought "different" for listening to cutting-edge music etc., and even that is likely more a John Hughes movie trope than anything.

But everyone needs to feel better than someone, and unpretentious, beer-swilling, Lakeview denizens are probably one of the last demographics people feel comfortable being openly contemptuous of.

Knock yourself out, just know it's all about you and the way you want to position yourself in the world more than anything.

That has nothing to do with my post. I just said that if you're in the jock crowd, you're in the cool crowd. That's it.